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Old Jan 18, 2006, 02:16 PM   #1
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MMC 9.13 released - Discuss and vote

You can grab MMC 9.13 from https://support.ati.com/ics/support/...e&folderID=293

Remember to also download the other MMC components from ATI.com...

Let ATI know what you think of this version compared to 9.08 by posting here and voting in the above poll.

Release Notes:

Resolved Issues

The following section provides information on issues that have been resolved with the latest release of the ATI Multimedia Center™. These include the following:

* Launching a DTV application on a system with less than 100mb of free space no longer results in a blank screen being displayed when streaming video. Further information on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-19381
* Each click of the Channel Lockout button no longer results in password dialog boxes being displayed for each click of the button. Further information on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-19385
* Using the keyboard or mouse to select the channel surf button no longer results in the channel surf grid appearing for a few seconds and then disappearing as normal TV resumes. Further information on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-19387
* Clicking the ATI icon while playing a slide-show and selecting About, no longer results in slide-show files failing to respond. Further information on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-19388
* Video stutter is no longer noticed when playing DVD and having ATI RAGE Pass Thru audio enabled. Further information on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-19389
* Connecting a flat panel display device to the top DVI connector, and a CRT to the lower DVI connector no longer results in a no signal dialog box being displayed when streaming DVD video through either the composite or S-Video connector. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21529
* Attempting to schedule a once a week recording no longer results in the TV becoming active, but the recording failing to start. This issue is known to occur under the Windows XP, and Windows XP MCE operating systems when using an ATI All-in-Wonder® X1800 product. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21528
* Attempting to play a DVD using the ATI DVD player under Windows XP MCE with an Apple Cinema display device connected no longer results in a blank playback window. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21527
* Auto-scanning an analog source no longer results in the channels detected populating the digital list. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21520
* A wrong message box is currently displayed when using the record option on DTV. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21521
* Channel surfing the TV under Windows XP Media Center Edition no longer results in the audio for the TV being muted when restarting the TV. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number. 737-21522
* The TV info bar is no longer displayed for a brief momment when watch DTV. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21523
* Creating time-shifted captured files when watching TV in full screen mode no longer results in the capture files not being available when attempting to playback the captured files. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21524
* The time shift slider is now working properly once the buffer file wraps around. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21525
* The initial page for creating a scheduled FM event is no longer displayed in english only and is displayed in the correct localized language as selected by the user. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21534
* Completing the steps to create a new user defined preset, no longer results in the user defined pre-set being unavailable to the user. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21533
* Scheduling a recording under Windows XP or Windows XP MCE, no longer results in the recorded file name failing to correspond to the one touch record setting. This issue is known to occur with a PAL version of the All-in-Wonder. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21532
* Using the remote to cycle through the TV scheduled watching options by repeatatively clicking the OK button, no longer results in only a one time watching option being available. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21531
* The teletext button is no longer missing in the TV control panel for PAL systems. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21530

Known Issues with the ATI Multimedia Center™

The following section provides information on known issues and product limitation for the ATI Multimedia Center™ 9.13. These include the following:

* The time remaining is not provided on the record panel when performing any type of recording function. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21518
* Entering the Broadcast time option and selecting to start watching a TV program from the beginning after watching TV for an extended period of time may result in the Time Shift slider bar moving to the beginning, but the playback of the video remains in the same place. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21519
* Scheduling a TV recording using the VCD format, may result in the schduled recording failing to start until using the mouse to click on any portion of the ATI MMC. Further details can be found in topic number 737-20031
* Starting a UTV session, followed by switching from UTV to Component/S-Video, and then back to UTV may result in a mommentary flash of static video and audio before the UTV session resumes normally. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21498
* Starting a UTV session and activating Picture-in-Picture may result in the inability to change channels on the main channel. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21526
* Setting the region to PAL may result in the UTV window appearing slightly off center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-21513
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Old Jan 18, 2006, 02:44 PM   #2
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Link to the download isn't working nor is the Encoder download on ATI's website which is a required component.
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Any word on Theater 550 support? I know ATI has coupled that chip with Cyberlink software, but I've heard some rumblings about a MMC release which would support the chip nonetheless. Am I mistaken?
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Full T550 support in this, as well as multiview
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Full T550 support in this, as well as multiview
Really? I wonder why they didn't mention it in the Release Notes (unless I overlooked it, which I doubt). I guess I can pick up the Sapphire Theatrix card now and install MMC 9.13 for TVTuner goodness!
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Its a completely new TV app really, who knows why its not mentioned :S
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i think there is a problem here, my video input is not recognised on my X800XT PE and there is no way to select it...

So sad
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Great. Totally borked MPEG file playback.


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i think there is a problem here, my video input is not recognised on my X800XT PE and there is no way to select it...

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Have you uninstalled the 9.08 before installing? Also did you install all of the components for MMC + the Driver and WDM?
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Great. Totally borked MPEG file playback.


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What doesnt work about it? Whats the file you're using... where was it recorded? I've been recording Mpeg in SW and HW with this build as well as doing playback and it seems to be working fine for me (T550 / X1800AIW / X800GT aiw)
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What doesn't work is Windows Media player nor any media player, MMC included, will play any .mpg or mpeg files back. I got the video working but no audio.

Recording I haven't tried yet as I've been fixing this problem
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What doesn't work is Windows Media player nor any media player, MMC included, will play any .mpg or mpeg files back. I got the video working but no audio.

Recording I haven't tried yet as I've been fixing this problem
Very strange indeed...not seeing anything like that here on either of my systems.
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Have you uninstalled the 9.08 before installing? Also did you install all of the components for MMC + the Driver and WDM?
Yes i did, i think they must have forgot the people that need this input option.

Can t find the PAL SECAM NTSC selection aswell, but i do get the image with the wrong format.

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Oh I figured out what it was.... Driver Cleaner gone berzerk I think (too many filters).

I'll plug in TV and test it and see how it goes.
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It won't recognize my HDTV Wonder card at all. This has been a problem for a while now, but I don't much care, as I have a TV in the living room...only, now that TV broke.


When starting the TV app, I am greeted with this:
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TV Player failed to initialize. Check the Windows Device Manager to ensure that the correct video driver has been installed and is working properly before attempting to restart TV"

Please god tell me I'm not going to have to get an ATi graphics card on here to make it work
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In a word complete crap.

I love ati but there loseing it .

Ever since the digital sound your tv stutters or freezes when the harddrive is used.
Now your stuck with tv on demand on all the time which makes the sound and freezeing 10 times worse.

Of course your recording no longer has a pause just start and stop and the tv picture has gotten worse.

Of hand this and the drivers which mess big time with 3d apps and its a total joke.
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Ugh....re-tried, and NONE of the MMC works on my machine....the launcher workks [yippee?], but all the actual programs crash hardcore and cough up things like "unable to initialize"


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Got it working. Try installing video drivers AFTER MMC if you're having problems

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Well I 'm going back to 9.08 My sound does not work unless I enable it manualy from suround mixer. It could be because this is an 8500? Plus it is defaulting to Mono even using the input dongle. Not happy at all.
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well I'm going try them whats so funny is that it works with my tv capture card lol which kinda starnge that it does pick it up hehe thanks letting me know
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sigh...

i'll give this 9.13's a whirl as well on my 9600XT AIW..... but i do not have high hopes from what i still am hearing about MMC and the whole Forced Digital Audio (CAN WE PLEASE get at least an option to choose between D audio or line in analog audio? )..

please ATI.. check this link ~> Come on ATI.. Little more work on the AIW series please.
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This release is abysmal. It incorrectly recognizes my X800 pro as an all-in-wonder and doesn't allow for the correct audio inputs for tv capture (via VIVO). This is pretty unacceptable. When I try to register for support on the ATI website, I cannot even select the correct card, as ATI seems to be unaware of its existence. ASUS AX800PRO/TVD.
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Works fine now, and eazylook isfixed, as is the remote wonder support [a curse upon my machie in all releases back to 9.03]



.....still a pretty useless program if you have an audigy however
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imo, i hate Easylook..

all i run is the basic TV .... just give me the ability to change channel, adjust volume... and record. And allow me to schedule...

all that other crap is useless.....

Also they fix it so that if your monitor is primary and tv is secondary, then having the tv window on the primary, theater mode on 2ndary... but only channel information showing up on the primary little window.. nothing on the 2ndary?
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In a word complete crap.

I love ati but there loseing it .

Ever since the digital sound your tv stutters or freezes when the harddrive is used.
Now your stuck with tv on demand on all the time which makes the sound and freezeing 10 times worse.

Of course your recording no longer has a pause just start and stop and the tv picture has gotten worse.

Of hand this and the drivers which mess big time with 3d apps and its a total joke.
TV on demand can be switched off in some situations. I manly use Composite connectors for mine and thats a case of ...

Go into setup. Then into channel list. Select the connection that you dont want to use TV on Demand for. Right click it, select properties and then choose "never use tv on demand on this connector".

(The above is from memory so may not be word for word but should get you there)

Hopefully that will help ease your problem.

As for the stuttering. Its not something i've seen on my system. Whats your system specs? Please include driver versions being used etc so ATI can try to replicate.
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This release is abysmal. It incorrectly recognizes my X800 pro as an all-in-wonder and doesn't allow for the correct audio inputs for tv capture (via VIVO). This is pretty unacceptable. When I try to register for support on the ATI website, I cannot even select the correct card, as ATI seems to be unaware of its existence. ASUS AX800PRO/TVD.
I'll check with ATI what the best way forward is with this... could well be that Asus didnt want MMC support (probably the case if your card came with Powercinema or some such app).
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Old Jan 19, 2006, 05:54 AM   #28
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i think there is a problem here, my video input is not recognised on my X800XT PE and there is no way to select it...

So sad
I have the same problem with my x800xl vivo card
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Old Jan 19, 2006, 11:11 AM   #29
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GUIDE+ broken

With this release (9.13) my GUIDE+ seems to be broken now: When you open up GUIDE+ the TV does not embed itself any more and when you select different channel through the GUIDE+, it does not change TV channel.
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Old Jan 19, 2006, 12:25 PM   #30
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TV on demand can be switched off in some situations. I manly use Composite connectors for mine and thats a case of ...

Go into setup. Then into channel list. Select the connection that you dont want to use TV on Demand for. Right click it, select properties and then choose "never use tv on demand on this connector".

(The above is from memory so may not be word for word but should get you there)

Hopefully that will help ease your problem.

As for the stuttering. Its not something i've seen on my system. Whats your system specs? Please include driver versions being used etc so ATI can try to replicate.
Alas that only seems to be fore svideo and compasite and not reqular cable.

Specs are: ati aiw 9700/asus k8n motherboard/1.5gb ram/audgy2/promise ultra 133tx ide card/ 2 80gb maxtor 1 160gb wd 1 200gb maxtor all ide /465 power supply/amd 2800+ 64/ lg 4163 dvd rw/hp 604 dvdrw.

Microsoft ide drivers and the latest ati drivers and software, comfirmed its not power or the ide card issue or over heating in any form. (windows xp)

Nforce ide makes the problems worse which is no suprise.

Oh if i delete a large file or move one from one drive to another the shound stutters and goes out of sync.

Thanks for anyhelp.

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