Wanna OC my X1900XT 512MB To X1950XT 512MB

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 21, 2006, 04:15 PM

Hi all im new here

the Topic Says It All

i got a CONNECT3D X1900XT 512MB with ZALMAN VF900-CU on it...
now i just wanna know what are the 2D and 3D CORE and MEMORY clocks of X1950XT...?
and what is the best program to use this over clock...
i just wanna hit the exact CORE and MEMORY clocks of X1950XT..(for now...

)

plz help me out...peaceeee

Jalle64 · Nov 22, 2006, 11:07 AM

Hi!
There is no 512MB version of X1950XT, its only the XTX version that has that amount of memory, and its XTX memory at 2000MHz the core at 650MHz, and the XT memory runs with 1800MHz and the core runs with 625MHz

~~hackerx~~ · Nov 22, 2006, 11:40 AM

2D clocks are the same for the x1950 xt and x1900 xtx.Getting the memory to 1800 will require some extreme voltage.But should be possible without too much damage.
The x1950 xt is basically x1900 xt 256mb cards with boosted memory speeds.
3D clocks for the x1950 xt is 625 core and 1800 mem.(900)

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 22, 2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hackerx

2D clocks are the same for the x1950 xt and x1900 xtx.Getting the memory to 1800 will require some extreme voltage.But should be possible without too much damage.
The x1950 xt is basically x1900 xt 256mb cards with boosted memory speeds.
3D clocks for the x1950 xt is 625 core and 1800 mem.(900)

Can i OC it to X1950XT with ATI OVERDRIVE?or i better use ATI TOOLS?
also noticed something wierd in ati tools...my card is on default clocks didnt toched it yet...i noticed that in ati tools in "REST" i get like 40C...but when i do the 3D view with that heiry cube it get hot up till 75-80C !!!
my zalman on it work "FULL ON" speed....is it normal?
it cant be that all this time i have this card and played alot of games with it on 75-80C?!?(WITOUT a single OC).

wth?

Chaos · Nov 22, 2006, 01:24 PM

Whay not use the tool that comes from ATI that can be found in this thread

It gives fan speed control as well as clock speeds and voltages

Chaos · Nov 22, 2006, 01:24 PM

those temps are normal well under load

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 22, 2006, 01:27 PM

OK grabed the OC program...it show this info:
ENGINE SETTINGS
MOD 2D :
CORE CLOCK : 499.50
CORE VOLT : 1.200
MEMORY SETTINGS
MEMORY CLOCK : 594.00
CORE VOLT : 2.10
MOD : 3D
ENGINE SETTINGS
CORE CLOCK : 621.00
CORE VOLT : 1.200
MEMORY SETTINGS
CORE CLOCK : 720.00
CORE VOLT : 2.10

Now plz tell me where to put the X1950XT clocks...and what volts to use...remind you folks i have X1900XT
(major newbie in gfx oc

)

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 22, 2006, 02:35 PM

i tried to Oc it a bit with ATI TOOLS...
VGPU : 1.425
all other Volt are default....
here is a screen...i dont know what to say about the TEMP im scared!
82C and it will go till about 84C i think....
(FULL ON FAN SPEED ZALMAN VF900-CU)

guys need your help...what to do....

**ChaosMinionX** · Nov 22, 2006, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoLy4EvEr

Hi all im new here

the Topic Says It All

i got a CONNECT3D X1900XT 512MB with ZALMAN VF900-CU on it...
now i just wanna know what are the 2D and 3D CORE and MEMORY clocks of X1950XT...?
and what is the best program to use this over clock...
i just wanna hit the exact CORE and MEMORY clocks of X1950XT..(for now...

)

plz help me out...peaceeee

Considering teh X1950 uses totally different memory, it doesnt matter if you clock it the same its still not gonna get the same performance. You can soft mod the drivers in windows to the X1950 and give a slight OC maybe you will get lucky and get like 700+ core and 800 something on memory @ 1.475 or even 1.45v if your using stock cooler for the X1900 series and no modifications dont expect too much from it. The X1950 XTX has only about a 5% increase on performance over the X1900XTX which really isnt to spectacular, and the X1900s especiially get hot unless youve done some sort of mods for cooling new vga fan, water cooling, new heatsinks etc I wouldnt try going for too extreme a OC, #1 it probably wont be stable for too long, #2 the temperatures you will be kicking out will probably artifact all over the place at higher clock speeds, #3 they are completely different cards and they use different memory GDDR4 (X1950XT and XTX only) GDDR3 (X1900XT and XTX + X1950Pro) Just go for a good OC on the card you have keeping it stable, your not gonna see a huge difference in games anyways trying to get a X1950 clock, another thing too if your running DDR2 in your comp OCing the memory or tightening up the timings will improve overall performance of your video. But I would stay away from trying to OC your 1900 to 1950XT or XTX speeds with the stock x1900 cooler, the x1950 cooler was actually revised to be cooler for those clocks you will most likely end up damaging your card if you dont have good cooling. 92C is pretty high, i never break 60C on air even playing oblivion with my setup X1900XTX. If you want some suggestions on cooling I can point you in right direction of what I did. GL

EDIT: I see your using a Zalman *shrug* I dont really like the zalman vga coolers

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 22, 2006, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Considering teh X1950 uses totally different memory, it doesnt matter if you clock it the same its still not gonna get the same performance. You can soft mod the drivers in windows to the X1950 and give a slight OC maybe you will get lucky and get like 700+ core and 800 something on memory @ 1.475 or even 1.45v if your using stock cooler for the X1900 series and no modifications dont expect too much from it.

can you check out the pic of OC i did and tell me if it's ok (TEMP,VOLTS)
other then that i get the point just worried about thoes 80+ temps....

**ChaosMinionX** · Nov 22, 2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HoLy4EvEr

can you check out the pic of OC i did and tell me if it's ok (TEMP,VOLTS)
other then that i get the point just worried about thoes 80+ temps....

I would reseat your HSF, those temps are pretty high for 1.425v. Also what is your ambient temp?
Not to mention that 650/774 is stock X1900XTX 3d clocks which run like 50C load with a good cooler @ 1.45v
Concerning your question with heat those cards can take about 110C before they run into problems, but still OCing you dont really want temps like what your getting unlesss its a crazy OC

EDIT: Also when you reseat the HSF use Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste, and make sure you apply it right.

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 22, 2006, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

I would reseat your HSF, those temps are pretty high for 1.425v. Also what is your ambient temp?
Not to mention that 650/774 is stock X1900XTX 3d clocks which run like 50C load with a good cooler @ 1.45v
Concerning your question with heat those cards can take about 110C before they run into problems, but still OCing you dont really want temps like what your getting unlesss its a crazy OC

EDIT: Also when you reseat the HSF use Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste, and make sure you apply it right.

i get ambient temp:

well i'l try to reseat the HSF i have somewhere thermal paste...not artic silver thoe....AS almost none

dunno wierrd thing with thoes temps.

Neshi · Nov 22, 2006, 05:23 PM

pretty high temps, maybe you havent seated the cooler right? do you remember what the temps were with the stock cooling on it?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Nov 22, 2006, 05:26 PM

They don't look that out of order for that card... but for a VF900 they do.

Is there enough airflow around that card? I notice there may not be due to that high VRM temp

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 22, 2006, 05:57 PM

Guys...
i just finished reseat the HSF and used AC themal thing...
everything seems ok and good...
tryed again with ATI TOOL the 3D Cube thing...and it gets same temps 83C
on rest its 41C....dunno whats wrong..maybe the program somehownot giving me the right temp info???

P.S
i noticed when i play a game like (NFS:CARBON,MEDIVEL2:TW,BF2142)i tryed to ALT+TAB to desktop and check out what temp ATI TOOLS show...and it was 48-50c....are thoes temp right if i ALT+TAB in the middle of high 3D game processing?

**ChaosMinionX** · Nov 22, 2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HoLy4EvEr

Guys...
i just finished reseat the HSF and used AC themal thing...
everything seems ok and good...
tryed again with ATI TOOL the 3D Cube thing...and it gets same temps 83C
on rest its 41C....dunno whats wrong..maybe the program somehownot giving me the right temp info???

P.S
i noticed when i play a game like (NFS:CARBON,MEDIVEL2:TW,BF2142)i tryed to ALT+TAB to desktop and check out what temp ATI TOOLS show...and it was 48-50c....are thoes temp right if i ALT+TAB in the middle of high 3D game processing?

where do you live? because my room sits at about 60-65F and my card idles at 35C and full load never breaks 60C with any game on any setting. X1900XTX @ 1.475v 702/828 with a Arctic Cooling Accelero X2 with Arctic Silver 5 thermal on it, and some custom voltage regulator heatsinks. IMO the accelero is the best vga cooler for the X1900s try picking one up

**ChaosMinionX** · Nov 22, 2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HoLy4EvEr

P.S
i noticed when i play a game like (NFS:CARBON,MEDIVEL2:TW,BF2142)i tryed to ALT+TAB to desktop and check out what temp ATI TOOLS show...and it was 48-50c....are thoes temp right if i ALT+TAB in the middle of high 3D game processing?

yes thats right, your temps dont switch on and off instantly like the 2d/3d clocks. So your getting like 50c on those.

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 22, 2006, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

yes thats right, your temps dont switch on and off instantly like the 2d/3d clocks. So your getting like 50c on those.

Crap...so what to do?!?
should i stay on thoes clock and temps or should i rest it back to default?
cuz in games and other test programs all stable here...

P.S
should i try to connect zalman fan stright to motherboard and not to the FAN CONTROLER that comes with zalman?
P.S 2
i did what was on my mind and connected the zalman fan directly to MB(witout fan control that cames with zalman)...and there is a change!75c at LOAD(steady)...but still wierd....
so back to the question above should i stay with the OC or back to default?(any massive danger to the gfx card at thoes load temps?)...

**ChaosMinionX** · Nov 23, 2006, 12:18 AM

that board can run at 100C and be "ok" but its all in what you feel safe with and your own personal limits.

~~hackerx~~ · Nov 23, 2006, 05:02 AM

just to clarify the x1950 xt still uses GDDR3 ram.Its basically the old(if u can call it old)R580 chip with the core clock of 625mhz.But the mem clock has been boosted to 900mhz(1800 effective).All that on stock cooler too.
So u shouldn't be having too much prob.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161047
The link proves the point.
U should be able to increase voltages to the ram without much prob since u have the vf-900cu.Try blowing compressed air onto ur card while under load and see if ur temps drop.
If ATi can raise the mem to that high speeds on stock cooler u should be able to do it easily.
Or u could try getting a x1950 xt bios.Mod it a bit to account for the extra ram u have.And then do a bios flash.This should be done only if u can't do it with ATI tool.
As for ur question.Plug the zalman into the fan ccontroller and put it on full blast.And then see load temps.And 75C is normal working temps for an x1900 xt with STOCK HSF.SO try what i told u.

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 23, 2006, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackerx

just to clarify the x1950 xt still uses GDDR3 ram.Its basically the old(if u can call it old)R580 chip with the core clock of 625mhz.But the mem clock has been boosted to 900mhz(1800 effective).All that on stock cooler too.
So u shouldn't be having too much prob.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161047
The link proves the point.
U should be able to increase voltages to the ram without much prob since u have the vf-900cu.Try blowing compressed air onto ur card while under load and see if ur temps drop.
If ATi can raise the mem to that high speeds on stock cooler u should be able to do it easily.
Or u could try getting a x1950 xt bios.Mod it a bit to account for the extra ram u have.And then do a bios flash.This should be done only if u can't do it with ATI tool.
As for ur question.Plug the zalman into the fan ccontroller and put it on full blast.And then see load temps.And 75C is normal working temps for an x1900 xt with STOCK HSF.SO try what i told u.

Hmm...got the point..
so you say that X1950XT has 625core and only the mem is 900....
what volt in meme i should try up abit....?
wanna try it

H3X4D3C1M4L · Nov 23, 2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HoLy4EvEr

Hmm...got the point..
so you say that X1950XT has 625core and only the mem is 900....
what volt in meme i should try up abit....?
wanna try it

Woah there tiger... you've got heat concerns and you want to increase voltage?

The temperatures will skyrocket when you do that, same way CPU's do too.

You may consider getting some more airflow going around the card

HoLy4EvEr · Nov 24, 2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Woah there tiger... you've got heat concerns and you want to increase voltage?

The temperatures will skyrocket when you do that, same way CPU's do too.

You may consider getting some more airflow going around the card

Hehe yeah..well i'l stay with X1900XTX clocks for now...till i get