multiple soundcard help!!

KILLAMANJARO

Hi I have installed a second sblive 5.1 (SB0060) running kx drivers.

My setup gave me six outputs in Cubase SX each with a separate audio track playing. My aim was to use a second card to give me 12 outputs but Cubase will only let the sound come out of one sound card or the other...is there a way around this. I have ticcked everything in the Cubase ASIO directx and multimedia setup.

Cubase only shows in its devices "ASIO master" or not connected.

Hope this makes sense

dj_stick

use one card as a master, and the second as a slave

select the card you have chosen as the master as cubase's interface

connect the SPDIF outputs from the AD_EXT or AUD_EXT header of the master card into the SPDIF inputs on the slave (AUD_EXT/AD_EXT and CD_SPDIF) and via the kX dsp route these directly to an output

KILLAMANJARO

Many thanks for the reply dj stick...are there any manuals on how to do this? And are there any sync issues with this method?

Doug W

I made these text files a while back. I have been working (very slowly) towards making some web pages but haven't finished yet.

Anyway the text files explain how to set up 2 sound cards with kX. I no longer have an account with this ISP so whenever they figure out that these pages still exist, they will delete these files.

http://www.usfamily.net/web/4stories...X-NTRACK-2SCS/

There are no sync issues because inputs are routed from the SEND card(s) to the HOST card. As far as your recording software is concerned, all the inputs come from your SEND card.

KILLAMANJARO

does anyone have any presets for this set up...I am having trouble with the routing

Doug W

I have a setup with 3538L using ProFX and 2 Audigy cards. I also use Aux inputs for each of the Audigy cards so it is set up for 8 inputs. You could just delete the extra parts. Send me a PM if you want to try it.

dj_stick

doug, add your DSP(s) to the Preset Exchange

Doug W

OK dj, I'll put it up there tonight-I guess that translates to this afternoon in Australia.

Shinco

I do not understand this setup. Why can I not user the digital I/O output on the bracket (=spdif ??!!) and cable it to the spdif in on the other card (in my case a coaxial). If so, how do I make the proper routing?

poet

Hi,
I have a similar question.
I have a rig with a sblive! with kx drivers and a cmedia onboard chip.
I want to be able to record a mic and a guitar simultaneously on 2 seperate tracks in Acid pro 6.
If I chose WaveOut as the Audio Device, then the track inputs give me options from both cards (Ive not actually tested this yet, but inputs were available for both cards, so I guess I should be able to record the mic on one, and the line-in on the other ok.).
But when I chose Asio as the Audio Device, it just gives me KX Asio input ports.

Is there a way to route the "mic in" of the cmedia onboard to Acid while still using Asio?
Do I need to cable them together (I have another scard lying around to try that with, but no cables), or is there a way to do it in software only via routing etc?

Thanks.

Shinco

Thats roughly what I want. I need an extra input on one of the audigy cards. So I want to link this card to my master ASIO card through the spdif digital out/inputs. One from a bracket in the computer to the input on the external box..... should be able to do this?? No need to go internal? And how about the routing? I have the cable but am unable to set it all up...

DJ.. other, pls help!!

poet

Or even simpler for what I need.
As there is a seperate mic and line in input on the one soundcard, is it possible to route them to different Asio ports so they can be recorded as seperate tracks in Acid? Or can I only have 1 AC97 device recording.
And I tried with the onboard soundcard and in Wave mode, it still didnt work, though winamp lets me use the 2 outputs, so I dont understand why the 2 inputs dont work in Acid, when it lets me select them as inputs...

Maddogg6

Basically - when you 'chain' 2 cards together - you are simply using 1 card (slave) as a sort of 'submix' - feeding an input on another card (master)

Just like in studios - a submixer may be 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 buss.
In KX - 1 SPDIF (aka digital) = 2 buss (stereo)
Add more card(slave) > card(master) SPDIF connections for more 'busses' between card (slave) and card (master).


You can also look at this sort of set up as - using 1 cards A/D convertors - on another card. - plus you can mix in KX Synths and use DSP Effects on those 'busses'.

hope that helps.

edit
But there are more that 1 way to connect 2 crads
Another way is to use 1 card as a 'send & receive' fx processor
Using spdif 1 in -> 2 out and vice versa -
end edit

Shinco

Okay,

I have a coaxial cable linked from the digital I/O (jack) on the bracket to the spdif input (rca) on the other card.. Can you tell me what settings I have to do to get the output from the first card to the ASIO bus on the other card?

Regards,
Shinco

dj_stick

in the dsp, connect the spdif input on the prolog to an asio input on the epilog

poet

Spent bloomin ages reading page after page of kx documentation last night.
Worked out only 1 AC97 output (mixed) allowed at 1 time. But does that apply to only 1 card?
If I have a 2nd card, or onboard chip, should I not be able to somehow add its AC97 to Prolog in DSP and have that go to another Asio port?

Also, if I add a 2nd card, where can I get the spdif/aux cable from in the UK? or am I going to have to find someone to make one for me (lacking skill and soldering iron here)?

Failing all that, I may just pick up a live drive and then I have the 2 line-ins and can record to seperate tracks (right?)

Cheers.

dj_stick

exactly

that's the basis of multicard support
connecting the digital output of your onboard sound into one of the digital inputs on your kX card will allow you to use your onboard's line input as an extra stereo pair in any ASIO application

poet

Thanks for the reply!

Ok, almost done now.
So even though I can have 2 winamps going to the seperate outputs of the 2 cards at the same time (or card and onboard), I can't use the 2 inputs without a cable to connect them?
That doesnt make sense to me, is that a kx issue, or cards in general?

Also, lastly, exactly what cable do I need, is there a guide anywhere?

dj_stick

no this is an issue with most ASIO applications

using multiple copies of winamp (or any other app) allows you to select different soundcard outputs to use

however, most ASIO applications only allow you to choose ONE ASIO card, so all inputs must be routed through that

EDIT: i wrote this quick guide after setting up a multicard system myself, there are no pictures, but hopefully the descriptions will suffice

poet

Thanks for that, much appreciated. Finally makes sense.

Though if that applies to ASIO, shouldnt I be able to switch to Wav drivers in my app, and use the 2 inputs that way? I dont get why in wav mode Acid Pro listed the inputs from the 2 cards, but I couldnt get any sound in through the 2nd (none kx) one. Is that a kx conflict or is Acid just teasing?

Seriously though, thanks for your help.

dj_stick

iirc using Acid you can only use one soundcard at a time, but it gives you the option to choose which one

poet

Thanks for that, went looking myself and couldnt find any answers. Again makes perfect sense.

Now after 3 days of loading/unloading/testing drivers, I can finally get back to the point of all this : making some music.

Though I swear I was probably happier using Hip-Hop Ejay back in the day ....


Many thanks.

Poet.

Shinco

Sorry to keep bothering you with this DJ, but:

The manual from for eg. the SB Live says that the rear plug:

Analog/Digital Out/Jack
6-channel or compressed AC-3 SPDIF output for connection to external digital devices or digital spreaker systems.... etc

Can I connect this output to the coaxial SPDIF input on my external audigy box ?

If yes, then what is the connection on the prolog that I have to use to connect it the the ASIO inputs?

Also: Do I have to set anythin up in the SBLive to route signal to the digital I/O output?

Regards,
Shinco

dj_stick

yes you should be able to do this, in the DSP of the slave connect the signal you want to send to the front SPDIF output on the epilog

then grab a mono 3.5mm jack to RCA plug to make the digital link

then in the DSP of the host card connect this spdif input on the prolog to an ASIO point on the epilog

Shinco

Yes it works fine now... I overlooked the SPDIF sliders for in and outputs....

What I am disappointed about is the SN ratio of the inputs of both cards... but that is an entierly other matter...

Thanks again for the support DJ!

Shinco

A small follow-up maybe....

I got rid of the bas SN ratio. But to do this I had to reset the card to the default settings and then re-load my own settings. Looks like there are settings that are not in de settings file?..... (all marks were checked)...