9100 bios

denis111 · Dec 25, 2002, 12:32 PM

Have anybody seen any Radeon 9100 BIOS? I wanna try to flash it into my Radeon8500

RIV@NVX · Dec 25, 2002, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by denis111
Have anybody seen any Radeon 9100 BIOS? I wanna try to flash it into my Radeon8500

Even if you can find a card out there, I doubt that any Radedit can dump BIOS.

denis111 · Dec 25, 2002, 02:27 PM

I think just some ati flasher can dump bios

RIV@NVX · Dec 25, 2002, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by denis111
I think just some ati flasher can dump bios

Probably.
But one more thing. There is something called ASIC - it has device codes - 9100 has different Device IDs than 8500 - you will probably just screw up your card with flash.

Zarathustra · Dec 26, 2002, 12:21 PM

Yeah I definitely wouldn't risk a 8500 with that BIOS. They are the same card anyway, I don't think a new BIOS would help much if at all.

denis111 · Dec 29, 2002, 09:27 AM

Well, i can test 9100 bios with rambios.exe . If it will work, it can be flashed safely, i think

CignaXI · Jan 10, 2003, 04:12 AM

the only difference between the 8500 and 9100 is the fullstream support (thats from the little specs ati has released). The only 9100 I have seen for sale is from sapphire and it is clocked at 230/230. So I don't think that flashing your bios will make any difference.

BigBen · Jan 10, 2003, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by CignaXI
the only difference between the 8500 and 9100 is the fullstream support (thats from the little specs ati has released).

There will be a new driver, wich enables official DivX support, based on ATIs fullstream technologie!

- less CPU usage
- better video quality (we will see...)

Regards
BigBen

denis111 · Jan 13, 2003, 04:25 AM

So, anybody seen 9100 bios&? I just wanna try it

Tyrant · Jan 18, 2003, 05:19 PM

Here's a thread from Rage3d with a 9100 bios link, and instructions:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33660520

People are apparently having success with the flash, and performance is about the same. Just keep in mind that these bios are from the 64mb 9100, so anyone with a 128mb 8500/LE probably shouldn't try it for the time being.

mbeeston · Jan 18, 2003, 05:44 PM

hehe.. i did that before i came here.. it works nicely =)

RIV@NVX · Jan 18, 2003, 06:09 PM

Link is down... can someone please e-mail me the 9100 BIOS @ riva_station@yahoo.com?

RIV@NVX · Jan 19, 2003, 05:19 AM

Doesn't work (This bios doesn't match your VGA card!).
Hercules FDX 8500LE

denis111 · Jan 19, 2003, 11:46 AM

Yeah! I'm gonna try to flash today or, maybe, tomorrow, Wish me luck

Tyrant · Jan 20, 2003, 12:09 AM

According to the other thread, it only works on boards made around the ATI reference design.

DarkFoss · Jan 20, 2003, 12:10 AM

I gave it a try tonite atiflash wouldn't work but flashrom had no trouble upgrading the 8500 to a 9100. The windows driver tab identified it as built by ati and so did 3dmark 2001se. However in the ati catalyst detail button the card identified as built by sapphire. The cat 3's installed without a hitch though. DX9 tests were sucessful however 3d mark locked up with artifacts never getting past the dragon scene.Thinking it was card bios related I reflashed back to the 1009 bios( I got the this bios doesn't match your vga card error with atiflash but again flashrom did not have a problem) and 3d mark still locks up.. Must be some mobo bios tweaking I did for the radeon 9700 that doesn't work for the 8500 afterall.. Too late tonite to try some more tests .. Once I get the 8500 to run 3d mark without lock-up's I'm going to reflash again ..will let you all know the results.
RIV@NVX let me know if you need flashrom I'll e-mail it to ya if you want to try for yerself.

RIV@NVX · Jan 20, 2003, 05:47 AM

I think I have it somewhere... will check.
Someone flashed it OK on Hercules, so I think I will be able too (I hope it will fix one problem this card has).

denis111 · Jan 20, 2003, 09:51 AM

I flashed 9100 bios to my 8500!! Everything works fine. So it works OK on PowerMagic Radeon 8500LE. I don't have any artifacts. P. S. to flash it with atiflash type "atiflash -u 0 9100.rom -f"

DarkFoss · Jan 20, 2003, 04:46 PM

I reflashed back to the 9100 bios with yer command Denis111
It worked fine. Still unable to run 3Dmark or any games locks up though

Guess I'll hold off and do a reformat/clean install and see if that clears things up.The rest of the parts for me new rig will be in tomorrow

Can't wait!

Athlon XP 2600 retail
2 sticks Corsair 256A xms 2700C2PT
Asus A7N8X deluxe
550 Antec Truepower( I never learn

)
Ati 9700 pro retail
2 maxtor hdds 1 60 1 40
Cheftech AX-01bld spx2 blue tower w/ window
2 Antec tri-color fans exhaust / 2 stock antec's in front
Win XP pro
Sony floppy
Lite-on 52x cdrw
Pine 16x dvd

Hopefully this rig will be able to handle Doom 3

mbeeston · Jan 20, 2003, 07:00 PM

http://coolltd.no-ip.com/64mb9100bbios.zip <- incase the new link on rage3d goes down.. thier woring on a 128mb verios over there =)

HsuGotaQ · Jan 20, 2003, 07:04 PM

Aside from the fact they seem much more stable compared to most of the other bioses (finally I can use a bios that can overclock and use both VGA and DVI outputs at the same time), but they don't seem that great in speed either.

I only go from 8222 (ATI 8500LE, bios 1.009, Omega 2.3.55) to 8452 (bios 8.004, Cat 3.0a). I don't get any artifacts and will try to push my card past 300/300 if possible. But to see only a 2000 point gain from the old 1.009 bios to the 8.004 is not that great of a deal. I will keep you posted on my findings at 275/275 and 300/300.

HsuGotaQ · Jan 20, 2003, 08:50 PM

BIOS 1.009 (250)
3DMARK2001SE: 8222

BIOS 8.004 (250) (ATI 9100 bios)
3DMARK2001SE: 8452

BIOS 8.004 (275) (ATI 9100 bios)
3DMARK2001SE: 8857

8.004 (250) to 8.004 (275)
8% increase in the default UT2K3 benchmark (1024x768 and 1600x1200)

I would rather test more, specially with the bios that work the fastest on my card, 7008, but the damn bios doesn't output on both DVI and vga. Also, I had a lot of difficulty keeping it stable at Retail speeds (275). Not to mention that I've done the current test on a system that is filled with software, drivers and other crap. But to give you an idea, I got 8513 (250) and 9251 (275) in 3DMark2001SE with a clean Windows XP SP1 install.

I kinda like these drivers and will keep them for some time. Anybody else tried to bench this baby?

No_Style · Jan 20, 2003, 09:31 PM

Currently waiting for somebody to post that up. So far no luck..

digitalwanderer · Jan 20, 2003, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by HsuGotaQ
BIOS 1.009 (250)
3DMARK2001SE: 8222

BIOS 8.004 (250) (ATI 9100 bios)
3DMARK2001SE: 8452

BIOS 8.004 (275) (ATI 9100 bios)
3DMARK2001SE: 8857

8.004 (250) to 8.004 (275)
8% increase in the default UT2K3 benchmark (1024x768 and 1600x1200)

I would rather test more, specially with the bios that work the fastest on my card, 7008, but the damn bios doesn't output on both DVI and vga. Also, I had a lot of difficulty keeping it stable at Retail speeds (275). Not to mention that I've done the current test on a system that is filled with software, drivers and other crap. But to give you an idea, I got 8513 (250) and 9251 (275) in 3DMark2001SE with a clean Windows XP SP1 install.

I kinda like these drivers and will keep them for some time. Anybody else tried to bench this baby?

Well if HsuGotaQ can do it with that kind of success I guess I'm kind of obligated to give it a go.

I just downloaded all the files, I think I'm gonna try flashing it....

HsuGotaQ · Jan 20, 2003, 10:39 PM

For some odd reason, I can't get RadEdit to open the bios file I downloaded. That said, I decide to go the easy way. I used the pre-packaged ATIBIOS flash disk made by Superdigg. You can find it here at Rage3D.

Actually, it wasn't a complete success. I would have loved to seen the higher scores I used to get, but having an average score (or fps relatively speaking) as well as dual output and a much more stable vidcard seems a good trade-off. Could anybody give me a hint how I can modify the bios from the 9100. Thanks

mbeeston · Jan 21, 2003, 12:39 AM

well.. the 128mb bios came out =)

and i mirrored it

http://coolltd.no-ip.com/9100128.zip

should head over too rage3d and thank them.. or if you got a problem

http://www.rage3d.com/board/forumdis...?s=&forumid=46

and if anyone needs the ati flash

http://coolltd.no-ip.com/atiflash.cab

=)

i'm also gonna swipe the guide off rage 3d and add it to me site cuase i'm bored =)

files included

denis111 · Jan 21, 2003, 04:36 AM

Does anybody seen another 9100 bios? I've seen only Sapphire.