Problem with Line in and stereo sound

Kurz · Feb 7, 2006, 08:44 PM

Helo
Sound card : sb0060 5.1

So from the beginnig , I try to create my own dsp settings that will work with Cool Edit Pro 2.0 (CE) . Using profx I defined Line in connected it to stero mix then k1lt . After all this dot line things there is only mono sound in the program CE , and "Peak Metre Window". Wierd thing is that when i use Forbidden kxmixer and turn on a line in input manually it is sudenlly a stereo sound , but the "Peak Metre Window" show no signal fron any channel LEFT or RIGHT same with CE ,
So where is a problem . ?

How can i turn on from the dsp level both channels L and R to get a stereo sound that is recognize by "Peak Metre Window" and CE ?

-Thru Line in i have connected a Vestax mixer - it ok balance is on center gain is ok .
-In the stereo mix there is 100 % vol level . for both sides
-If ther is a default settings there is a stereo sound but no signal in "Peak Metre Window"
-I have read a tutorial 1000 times , and forum to find somebody with similar problem ... no results
- kx drv version is "5, 10, 00, 3537 - debug"
- of course i have connected stereo mix output to the K1lt -out13 -out14 that is winnrecording
- Mp3 from winamp are in stereo sound there is no problem with them i record in stereo by CE and the "Peak Metre Window" recognize the left and right channel defined by Src fxbus0/1

Any ideas ? Why there in only mono sound (right channel) ? Is it a kx router problem ... ? (there is no conf . for ac 97) .

**dj_stick** · Feb 7, 2006, 08:52 PM

ac-97 doesn't use the fxbus, it's a physical input to the DSP, so check the prolog's ac97 points to see if it's coming in stereo

also make sure both left and right connections are hooked up correctly in the DSP

Russ · Feb 7, 2006, 09:27 PM

The Line_In slider on the AC97 page, is for monitoring only. It ouputs directly to the analog front outputs, thus you would not see any signal in the DSP from that slider, but you would hear it in your front speakers.

Try clicking on the 'Reset AC97' button in kxmixer (AC97 page) and then re-select Line_in as the AC97 source (if it changed).

BTW: Which version of ProFx are you using? If you are using the version that came with 3537, you should install version 2.1b.

Kurz · Feb 8, 2006, 05:25 AM

ok thanks ....

But instaling new Profx 2.1b make no effects ... i changed only with that i click on the ADC and turn on Line in in mixer section it is stereo sound but like signal is skiping whole dsp proces . I don`t have to connect any plugins to hear a sound ... when it is turn off (LINE IN) and only selected rec source as line in it plays only a right channel . ..
Why this is happenig ... > ?
I think there is nothing wrong with Hardware connection becouse i hear a stereo sound but as i said it is skiping all DSP ...

Russ · Feb 8, 2006, 08:03 AM

Again, the Line_in slider on the AC97 page of kxmixer is for DIRECT monitoring only. It is direct to the analog front outputs, thus no DSP connections are required to hear it. The same thing goes with the sliders on the right side of the ADC plugin.

As for why you are only getting a mono signal out of SRC or ADC, I do not know. Did you try resetting AC97 like I suggested? You indicated that you only get a mono signal into CE, but see no signal on the Peak plugin. That does not make sense, so it sounds like more is going on here. Can you post a sceen shot of your DSP?

Try a more basic setup. (using just line in)
Reinitialize the DSP.
Clear the DSP.
Reset AC97 (click on the reset ac97 button only, do not do anything else in kxmixer).
Load ADC and kxlt only.
Connect ADC to the Analog Front connections of kxlt.
Set ADC to line in (do not touch the sliders on the right side of the ADC tweak window, and do not do anything in kxmixer)) and adjust the Volume slider in ADC (the ones on the left only (RecL/RecR).
See if you hear it in stereo (or at all).
If you do not, try using a different line level source and see if it makes a difference.
If you do, then connect ADC to the WinMME connections of kxlt, and you should get a stereo signal to CE. If that works, then add your additonal plugins and connect them like they are now and see how it works. If it suddenly stops working, then you are either mis-connecting something, or using an incorrect setting in one of the plugins that you loaded.

Kurz · Feb 8, 2006, 11:41 AM

ok This is my basic DSP conf [color=#800080]www.kebaab.friko.pl/conf.jpg[/color] check it .. .maybe i have done smth wrong .

Still searching for answer.. ? Any ideas ?

- i have had reset AC97 each time i clear my dsp
-There is sth wrong with KX .. i don`t know what it can be ...

Russ · Feb 8, 2006, 12:10 PM

Did you try the setup I mentioned in the PM? If, so what was the result?

Kurz · Feb 8, 2006, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

Ok, did you try reseting AC97 yet? Sometimes that fixes odd problems, so be sure to try it.

In the pic, the ADC record volumes are at 0. I take it that you tried increasing the volume, right?

With that config (volume at 0), you should not really be getting any signal at all so something is screwy.

I gotta think about this one, as it looks like your config is OK (other than the volume).

In the mean time lets make sure it is not something with ProFX.
Reintialize the DSP.
Go to the 'Ins and Outs' page of kxmixer and unmute the AC97 slider and set volume at the max level.
Go to the 'AC97' page of kxmixer, and select 'Line In' in the drop down box.
At this point you should hear it, but you can connect a peak plugin to the top 2 ouputs of prolog to verify it.
Try that and see if you get the same result, and let me know.

Ok i have Reintialize the DSP ... and so .. i get the same result .. Stereo sound skiping DSP (monitor) , and only right channel mono sound as usualy .. . that is recognaised by peak plugin ? What now . ?

Russ · Feb 8, 2006, 12:37 PM

I do not know, it is very strange. I am not aware of any such issues with the sb0060.
I do not know why the monitor signal would be stereo, but not the AC97 inputs in the DSP, they should both be getting the signal from the same source.

Which specific slider in kxmixer are you unmuting for monitoring (i.e. which slider and which page)?

It shouldn't make a difference but, I would still try a different source on Line in, and maybe try a different stereo cable as well.

If all else fails maybe clean kX off the system completely and reinstall it.

Kurz · Feb 8, 2006, 01:08 PM

I have tried diffrent source on Line in .. that was my radio .. still only right channel ...
When i load a basic DSP settings [color=#800080]www.kebaab.friko.pl/conf.jpg[/color] . to get a stereo sound i go to KX MIXER , then AC97 page and turn on a LINE IN ( down , left side ) but as i said it is only monitor ... wierd ...

Russ · Feb 8, 2006, 01:21 PM

I assume you mean at the bottom, right of the AC97 page?
In any case that is the monitor slider for Line In. I just wanted to confirm that is what you were using.

Did you happen to try using a different stereo cable?
Out of curiouslty, does the MIC in work right?

I really cannot think of anything else, other than the cable, and a clean reinstall (maybe try a newer version of kX).

As a last step, I would try the CL drivers and verify that it does fact work with them.

Sorry, I could not be of more help...