Temp?

Ferret_Style

Ok got my new Shuttle system running with basically the specs in my sig except in a shuttle. I have a 550 P4 running at stock speeds with ddr 400 and 1 sata drive and 1 DVD RW drive. Got X800 pro also installed. These are the temps i get during World of Warcraft.... are they good or should i worry about the heat?
The GPU has bee around 51 ish.

pr0digal jenius

CPU is a little warm, as is the board temp(due to the CPU i can almost assure you)


system and video card temp are fine though

Ferret_Style

any hints? This CPU seams to have always run HOT.... i have seen it up to 70C in both my old case and this one... could it be bad or is this just this chip?

niceguyrichy

those P4's are supposed to run absolutely fine at fairly high temps (I've read anything up to 70 / 80 C), but obviously better for them not to. Don't know if I believe that yet or not.

personally I'd worry about the board getting that hot though, seems high.

Your cpu run that hot with big cooling in a regular atx sized system??

Ferret_Style

yah it ran pretty hot... not sure exactly how hot but it was considerably higher then my wifes p4 533 fsb 2.4

Edit: found this post about the temps It was pretty hot then too a little lower but still hot.

550 Pentium 4 Socket 775 Temp

Could the chip be bad or is this just normal for them?

Tril

I had cpu temp problems with a p4 before. The pins (don't know how to call those metal bars) on the cpu's heatsink were close apart and dust did not pass well between them. So the fan pushed dust toward the heatsink and this dust got stuck, reducing the air flow on the heatsink. I've seen the temps go as high as 100 deg. celsius on this pc. At that moment, the protection circuitry in the cpu kicks in (if the temp protection on the mb is off) and the computer shuts off. It has shut off itself a few times already and it's still running.

All I had to do to fix the problem was remove the dust on the heasink once in a while. After removing the dust there, the temps go back down to about 50-55 deg. C. That was with a P4 Prescott.

You may have the same problem. Make sure there is no dust on the heatsink of the cpu. Placing dust filters where the air enters the case and cleaning them once in a while may help. I never used them though.

Ferret_Style

The system is 2 days old so i doubt it is dust. I checked all the other fans and it looks fine. Question... the intructions tell you for the cpu goop to put on an even layer... so i did and made a nice white thin layer on the top... could i have put too little or much of the goop?

Tril

Most people usually put too much on their first try.

Ferret_Style

What is the correct way to do it... and i heard you want to wipe 99% of it off

niceguyrichy

I started using Arctic Silver 5, and I noticed (after a decent amount of 'breaking in' time) a genuine 4/5C decrease on my cpu temp.
It's not too expensive, one tube goes a loooong way, and they have a nice simple instruction bitty on their site:

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...tions_big2.htm

and belive them when they say you don't need much.

btw, can someone tell me which button on my keyboard I use for the 'degrees' symbol??

temeteus82

Press Alt and type 0176 with numeric keys make sure that num lock is on

niceguyrichy

outstanding! cheers dude.

Ferret_Style

cool think i might pick some up got 30 days to decide if i liek this case... i do have to say i have been playing with the fan controls and really have got it to stay under 60 C so it is getting better. THink it is just needing to adjust it to what i want to see... i mean full blast and the case is definatly cooler but then i have a hair dryer in my computer LOL.

niceguyrichy

if it's the fancy heatpipe cooled shuttle I'd stick with it.
that's what I built for my fiancee and it's cool and quiet, even with my cpu and gf card in (the ones in my sig).

on the other hand you could try and rma either the cpu or the case to make sure that's not the problem.
if you've had the cpu in a larger, better cooled case and it's run a lot cooler, I'd consider rma'ing the shuttle. It shouldn't run much (any) hotter than in a regular sized case really if you're not oc'ing.

Ferret_Style

ok after fan adjustments i am getting 48C when idle and 54-57C while gaming. Gets sorda loud as the fan is running 2200 rpm but not too bad. I think AC5 might be a good idea. The CPU has always been somewhat hot though as i hear all 775 p4's are. From what i remember 58 was about what i got while full gaming in my large case with 5 80mm fans lol.

pr0digal jenius

48 idle is what i have on my Xeons in a well ventilated Tsunami case, so that sounds about right for a prescott in SFF, and if load stays below 60, you're good to go

Ferret_Style

Its stuck at 61 - 62 Fully loaded with WoW but really never goes above that. THink i might try some artic silver and see if it helps. 61ish seems about right for this dang chip.....

pr0digal jenius

yea, it is afterall, a pressHot in a lunchbox

daedal

Well 61°C is still a bit warm. I believe yours should throttle down at 70°C.
Where is the sensor for your motherboard located?

Ferret_Style

Its a shuttle barebones so not sure..... new case.... still trying to decide if i keep it.

Ferret_Style

ok got some Artic silver 5 now lets see if that helps... if not i got a new slot cooler to try also

Ferret_Style

well it was sitting at about 60 - 61 C under load and 45 - 48 idle.
I took it all out and put my old case back together to see the temps.
Fully loaded i am getting 55- 57 C and idol of about 40C. I am just wondering if i shoudl keep the shuttle or ditch it since the load is too much for the little case... I am really torn!

pr0digal jenius

*chanting* keep it...keep it!

Ferret_Style

Should i worry with 61C? I mean i read the chip is ment to do 72 for thermal scaling... though i have no idea what that means?

daedal

Scaling would mean that it has hit it's