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Sep 27, 2005, 04:53 AM
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Burned
Join Date: May 2002
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ATI's Crossfire - are you impressed?
Please vote !
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Sep 27, 2005, 07:52 AM
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DH SuperMod
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type...
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Im impressed, but i would like to see how it works with the r5xx series befor I would even concider buying it.
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Sep 27, 2005, 08:09 AM
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Uber Coffee Drinker
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gatineau, Quebec
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Not impressed. Not with the kind of claims ATI has been making vs. real world values. Waiting to see what will happen with R5s however.
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Sep 27, 2005, 09:55 AM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Denmark, CPH.
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anyone seen the xbitlabs review...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...crossfire.html
not impressed either.. but if the dh.net review was my only source i'd say it's pretty good..
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Sep 27, 2005, 10:55 AM
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Xtreme
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can
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Not impressed...yet. If they raise the 60Hz @ 1600X1200 limitations and with the X1800's im sure it will rock.
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:23 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Think it's not as well implemented as NV. But maybe R520 Crossfire will rock?
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:35 AM
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At Your Service...
Join Date: May 2002
Location: North Carolina
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Nice review - liked that you tried with lots of different games...
The underlying technology is obviously working well, and ATI has a solid platform (mainboard chipset) to use the cards, but I wasn't astounded because of the present price/performance against their competition (equal, no better...) and I really had expected them to be able to implement the technology. ATI hopefully will take the price/performance lead with their next revision of GPU, which, with Avivo technology and Crossfire tech across different cards available, should be much more impressive and flexible.
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:03 PM
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F.U.B.A.R.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southern California
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i didn't even know crossfire was even available. Where i work, we hardly carry any ATI cards, and when we do, most of them are low to mid range cards. I haven't seen any other retailer or online store carry the crossfire cards.
and the review posted by dsdsdk, at first i was unimpressed with the comparing results between the x850xt crossfire and the 7800gtx in SLI, because the GTXs were performing better than the x850. Then i remembered that it wasn't the r520  . So now i'm a little more hopeful  .
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:08 PM
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Elisha = hottie
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area
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Not impressed. Will be waiting for the "next" gen. Hopefully it is single slot, and works with my current mobo. AGP is all I need.
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:21 PM
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F.U.B.A.R.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by Pluvious
Not impressed. Will be waiting for the "next" gen. Hopefully it is single slot, and works with my current mobo. AGP is all I need.
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AGP is dead dude. both nVidia and ATI have said that they will not make their G70 (nVidia) and their R520 (ATI) cores in an AGP format.
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:52 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Yup and AGP = no sli or crossfire so forget it... It's tough but you and I, we are extinct.
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:53 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: California USA
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Not impressed. Nvidia must be breaking open the champaigne bottles right about now  as it's obvious they have the 2005 product cycle all to themselves. Hard bein a ATI fanboi these days 
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:59 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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True 
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Sep 27, 2005, 02:01 PM
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At Your Service...
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Location: North Carolina
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Originally Posted by Big Red
Not impressed. Nvidia must be breaking open the champaigne bottles right about now  as it's obvious they have the 2005 product cycle all to themselves. Hard bein a ATI fanboi these days 
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Eh, yeah, well, I'm still one too - unless Nvidia just blows 'em away (highly doubtful) - ATI will get it going here in the next month or two...
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Sep 27, 2005, 02:35 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
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Location: California USA
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Originally Posted by swimtech
Eh, yeah, well, I'm still one too - unless Nvidia just blows 'em away (highly doubtful) - ATI will get it going here in the next month or two...
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Doubtfull the X1800 series will be less than stellar performers. I guess ATI had to start somewhere with Crossfire. keeping finger crossed 
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Sep 27, 2005, 04:05 PM
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watching 1080i
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: April 13th 2029
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Impressed, but not that much.. The IQ is awesome, amazing even, but the 60hz limit is like shooting themselves in the foot. If I had the cash, I would not be buying yet. I think in 6 months people will be singing a different tune.
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Sep 27, 2005, 04:20 PM
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DH Team Leader
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vantaa, Finland
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I voted: "Not impressed im waiting"
Current CF cards can't beat nVidia's cards. Waiting for the next generation of cards....
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Sep 27, 2005, 04:24 PM
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-DH Resident Uber Poster-
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by BWX
Impressed, but not that much.. The IQ is awesome, amazing even, but the 60hz limit is like shooting themselves in the foot. If I had the cash, I would not be buying yet. I think in 6 months people will be singing a different tune.
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Agreed, I just ordered my parts for my computer today from Newegg so it will probably get here early weekend. Too bad ATI waited so long. What they have better be nothing short of amazing or they are screwed. I hope for their sakes it is.
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Sep 27, 2005, 04:28 PM
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watching 1080i
Join Date: Nov 2002
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I thought it would have been cool if they tried to beat the best SLI systems with single card solutions.. (dual core maybe?) I don't think it is impossible, and they could charge a premium. Too bad they didn't go with their first instincts.
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Sep 27, 2005, 04:37 PM
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F.U.B.A.R.
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Originally Posted by BWX
I thought it would have been cool if they tried to beat the best SLI systems with single card solutions.. (dual core maybe?) I don't think it is impossible, and they could charge a premium. Too bad they didn't go with their first instincts.
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that would have been a better solution. who would want to pay $1,200~$1,300 in video cards for a max of 30% increase in performance regardless of it being ATI or nVidia?
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Sep 27, 2005, 05:45 PM
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DriverHeaven Junior Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: oregon
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in the games i play i notice a difference between 60 and 85 fps and untill they can up the fps i'm waiting
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Sep 27, 2005, 06:09 PM
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watching 1080i
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn
that would have been a better solution. who would want to pay $1,200~$1,300 in video cards for a max of 30% increase in performance regardless of it being ATI or nVidia?
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yeah imagine this.. ATI focusing their efforts to put out a single card solution that even approaches the GTX SLI's performance. Even if they had to put "Crossfire on one card" or something like that, it would be cool as hell, and even if it didn't beat the SLI, all it would have to do it come close and cost less than 2 GTX's..
Plus without focusing on all the dual card stuff, (mobo technology, etc) maybe it could have been done? Who knows? Just a thought, it would have been really cool, and just like ATI to do something like that.
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Sep 27, 2005, 07:44 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
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I don't know, I said impressed, but I'm not buying it yet.
In the DH tests it beat a 6800Ultra SLI setup, and to me that's what it's supposed to do. It should beat a single of the next generation above it (7800GT/X) and match/beat a dual card solution of it's rival (6800Ultra)
Think about it, the x850xt was never supposed to be better than the 7800 series, so why would two of them beat two 7800's?
One thing I didn't like about the DH benchy was that the systems weren't identical, so that throws some things off.
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Sep 27, 2005, 08:11 PM
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watching 1080i
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Originally Posted by Son_of_Thunder
One thing I didn't like about the DH benchy was that the systems weren't identical, so that throws some things off.
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How could they be identical though?
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Sep 27, 2005, 08:14 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
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Originally Posted by BWX
How could they be identical though?
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I'm looking mainly at the 3800+ vs the FX-55
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Sep 27, 2005, 09:37 PM
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Delete Me
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