The issue is now getting the new ATI installed. I am trying a native to linux game such as UT2004 to see if i get 3d outside of point2play. I have the previous driver installed and the ATI CP. I see that the ATI's are definatly installed but point2play is giving no 3d acceloration.... and both gears work.
As for the guild enviroment... that is just the new ATI drivers requiring that and i am major newb
but learning !