The performance of my new 6800 GT disappointed me....

erazer · Apr 4, 2005, 12:00 PM

I am disappointed from my new card 6800 GT (agp slot).I had an ATI 9800 PRO card and i decide to change with a nvidia.But the performance of 6800 in the games are poor .For example in Final Fantasy XI i have 18-25 fps!!and lags (with ati the performance was better).The same happen and with THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK(with all settings full) i have a little better performance from nvidia against ati but the cards power deference is huge and the fps deference was only about 5-7 fps.I made format and clean install windows Xp PROF SP2 the latest drivers in everything. but nothing happened.Whats going on?I dont think that 6800 gt is so weak.Any idea?My system is...

P4 2.6 HP @800
1 GB 3200
MB MSI 875P
VGA 6800 GT 256 MB (drivers forceware 71.84)
Soundcard audigy2

My benchmarks results in 3Dmarks is normal.

redsolar · Apr 4, 2005, 01:14 PM

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/chro...k_performance/
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...iddick_perf_2/

Take a look at those two, and see how close your performance is... Also, you may want to make sure you have all the chipset (AGP) drivers installed correctly.

And of course, welcome to the forums.

What is your FPS actually? Also, All MAXed with 6800GT is likely different than all MAXed with 9800 Pro, since Pro by default does not run a few very-high-level shaders, which 6800GT does in Riddick, so make sure you are doing apples-to-apples comparison there.

erazer · Apr 4, 2005, 02:17 PM

Thank you for your reply.Your links helped me.Us i read using shaders 2++ in Riddick for some reason kill the frames.So i tryed shaders 2.0 and the deference in performance was awesome.It works like a dream,very smooth.

Thank you again

djulion · Apr 4, 2005, 10:43 PM

hi...

i have a geforce 6800 ultra... how can i change the shaders to 2.0? or is it only to that game (CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK) ?

redsolar · Apr 4, 2005, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by djulion

hi...

i have a geforce 6800 ultra... how can i change the shaders to 2.0? or is it only to that game (CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK) ?

Most games support various shader levels. Which games are you talking about here?

Duranix · Apr 5, 2005, 12:01 AM

if your fps seem a bit low, i think its because you have a beast of a card, and a slow cpu... 2.6ghz intel isnt enough for a 6800GT. you should have atleast 3200+ for a 6800GT.

DeadPooL_X_ · Apr 6, 2005, 06:51 AM

Aye prob CPU limited.

pr0digal jenius · Apr 6, 2005, 10:32 AM

riddick is known for eating nvidia cards for lunch, it isn't the card.

HawgsHead · Apr 6, 2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Duranix

if your fps seem a bit low, i think its because you have a beast of a card, and a slow cpu... 2.6ghz intel isnt enough for a 6800GT. you should have atleast 3200+ for a 6800GT.

You hit it RIGHT ON THE HEAD Bro!It's the CPU thats pulling the GT down.The GT I had ran like a screaming ME-ME.Get youreself an ASUS A8V-Deluxe and and AMD 64 Winchester 3200{GREAT bang for the buck!}and roll on with the program.That GT will rock-n-roll then!

rico01 · Apr 9, 2005, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HawgsHead

You hit it RIGHT ON THE HEAD Bro!It's the CPU thats pulling the GT down.The GT I had ran like a screaming ME-ME.Get youreself an ASUS A8V-Deluxe and and AMD 64 Winchester 3200{GREAT bang for the buck!}and roll on with the program.That GT will rock-n-roll then!

Couldn't agree more. The 6800 GT/Ultra cards almost require a fast CPU and Mobo setup or the poor 6800 GT/Ultra will fall asleep before the CPU is getting there.

jasonbourne · Apr 9, 2005, 02:58 PM

U Really Need To Upgrade That Cpu Of Yours.like Duranix Said U Need At Least A Amd 64 3200 To Be Able To Handle Your Video Card.

***Zardon*** · Apr 9, 2005, 05:21 PM

lower the shader level in game from 2.0++ to 2.0. frame rates will increase dramatically.

Millions Knives · May 10, 2005, 04:07 PM

I've posted on here before about what I believe to be poor perfomance with my BFG 6800GT OC. I've tried to find benchmarks and tests that have been done with this card to see if I'm expecting too much from it. In games like Counter-Strike Source I find FPS drops from 75-80 to 30-40 when there are 6 people on screen and shooting. This makes it very hard to play, and I'm running the game on the default settings it comes set to.

I'm currently running the Zeropoint 76.44 drivers and also am using the autoexec.cfg that comes with it. No matter what drivers I've tried, I get the same results.

My Valve Stess Test results are: 101.98
My 3D Mark 2005 score is: 5036

The rest of my computer specs are in my sig. I was wondering if anyone else had this card to see what there performance in games like CS:S is.

Im_TRAGIC_Foo · May 19, 2005, 02:40 PM

hi guys cool site first of all, Im a little concerned over this thread. is nvidia cheating again? synthetic benchmarks are one thing, but real world gaming is a completely different discussion. i switched from a ATI 9800pro with the thought of UNREAL 3 engine coming soon. well in the meantime i play Americas Army, with my RADEON card i was able to play with 90-110 fps, after swtiching to the PNY 6800GT 256mb ddr3 (clocked 421/1112)my framerates dropped to 60-70 fps. whats going on here? will my card only benifit from technology not yet released? i spent quit a few hours checking various forums related to this issue and it seems to be more wide spread than i thought....i've also read some things about voltage tweeks i was jsut wondering if i could benifit from it?
if anyone could give any info on this situation it would be greatly appreciatedd...
is there anything im missing?? here are my specs:

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~3198 Mhz
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~3198 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 080009, 2/23/2004
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Locale United States
Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.33 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 4.78 GB

Name NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0045&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\4&38B 71F77&0&0008
Adapter Type GeForce 6800 GT, NVIDIA compatible
Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
Adapter RAM 256.00 MB (268,435,456 bytes)
Installed Drivers nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version 6.14.10.7189
INF File oem3.inf (nv4_NV3x section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 75 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xFB000000-0xFBFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xCFFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xFA000000-0xFAFFFFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\nv4_mini.sys (6.14.10.7189, 3.29 MB (3,454,656 bytes), 8/3/2004 10:29 PM)

Millions Knives · May 19, 2005, 02:45 PM

Yeah i feel the same way. I still haven't been able to find any answers for the low FPS I get in games that I feel I shouldn't be. I wish I could find out from the majority of people that have this card if they are having similar FPS problems.

AMD4Life · May 24, 2005, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_TRAGIC_Foo

hi guys cool site first of all, Im a little concerned over this thread. is nvidia cheating again? synthetic benchmarks are one thing, but real world gaming is a completely different discussion. i switched from a ATI 9800pro with the thought of UNREAL 3 engine coming soon. well in the meantime i play Americas Army, with my RADEON card i was able to play with 90-110 fps, after swtiching to the PNY 6800GT 256mb ddr3 (clocked 421/1112)my framerates dropped to 60-70 fps. whats going on here? will my card only benifit from technology not yet released? i spent quit a few hours checking various forums related to this issue and it seems to be more wide spread than i thought....i've also read some things about voltage tweeks i was jsut wondering if i could benifit from it?
if anyone could give any info on this situation it would be greatly appreciatedd...
is there anything im missing?? here are my specs:

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~3198 Mhz
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~3198 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 080009, 2/23/2004
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Locale United States
Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.33 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 4.78 GB

Name NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0045&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\4&38B 71F77&0&0008
Adapter Type GeForce 6800 GT, NVIDIA compatible
Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
Adapter RAM 256.00 MB (268,435,456 bytes)
Installed Drivers nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version 6.14.10.7189
INF File oem3.inf (nv4_NV3x section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 75 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xFB000000-0xFBFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xCFFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xFA000000-0xFAFFFFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\nv4_mini.sys (6.14.10.7189, 3.29 MB (3,454,656 bytes), 8/3/2004 10:29 PM)

I, myself have softmodded my 6800GT with an Ultra bios and I have seen dramatic increases in performance, although this may not work for EVERYONE. Usually slowdown after overclocking is a sign that your card may not be able to handle it. You may want to try disabling fastwrites and sideband addressing in your bios. These do seem to limit many people's overclocks. If this doesn't help, try backing down your overclock and see if your performance goes back up. My card runs beautifully at 415/1190, and on average, a 6800GT can achieve 405-425MHz at the core with ease. A couple more things you might want to try are updating your drivers and using RivaTuner to overclock. I myself use RivaTuner 15.5 with the ForceWare 76.41 drivers and my framerates in games are very good, with no artifacting or lockups.

EDIT: Also, what kind of power supply are you using, and how many amps does the 12v rail run at? You want a power supply with 420+ watts(more is better) with a steady 12v rail that stays within 4% of 12 volts and an amperage of the mid-20's and up. I use a Rosewill RE502 500W PSU with a steady 12v rail that runs at 34 amps, so my 6800GT is getting all the juice it needs, with some in reserve.

0utlaw_Cr0 · May 25, 2005, 03:53 PM

l0L

I have Gigabyte GF 6800 Gt and i feel that my card is over heat can someone can tell me what is termal solution for this card? Temperature is 63-74 c I use Vtuner 2 from gigabyte bundled software on normal setinngs, fan speed is set to auto optimized. I use Omega drivers 6693. And is someone of you have mainbord asus P4C800e Delux id like to know how to setup bios four max game preformance.
My Pc spec is P4 3.2 ghz HT 800,Ram is PqI 3200 1gb on dual,Storage is seagate sata 120gb,Vga is Gigabyte GF6800 GT.

Im_TRAGIC_Foo · May 27, 2005, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD4Life

I, myself have softmodded my 6800GT with an Ultra bios and I have seen dramatic increases in performance, although this may not work for EVERYONE. Usually slowdown after overclocking is a sign that your card may not be able to handle it. You may want to try disabling fastwrites and sideband addressing in your bios. These do seem to limit many people's overclocks. If this doesn't help, try backing down your overclock and see if your performance goes back up. My card runs beautifully at 415/1190, and on average, a 6800GT can achieve 405-425MHz at the core with ease. A couple more things you might want to try are updating your drivers and using RivaTuner to overclock. I myself use RivaTuner 15.5 with the ForceWare 76.41 drivers and my framerates in games are very good, with no artifacting or lockups.

EDIT: Also, what kind of power supply are you using, and how many amps does the 12v rail run at? You want a power supply with 420+ watts(more is better) with a steady 12v rail that stays within 4% of 12 volts and an amperage of the mid-20's and up. I use a Rosewill RE502 500W PSU with a steady 12v rail that runs at 34 amps, so my 6800GT is getting all the juice it needs, with some in reserve.

thanks for the info!, i have since tried some forceware drivers i found on this website, i have gained up to 20-30 fps. ill look into the other things you suggestions, also i have a nice antec true blue 430watt ps.

AMD4Life · May 27, 2005, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_TRAGIC_Foo

thanks for the info!, i have since tried some forceware drivers i found on this website, i have gained up to 20-30 fps. ill look into the other things you suggestions, also i have a nice antec true blue 430watt ps.

Before you try an Ultra bios, you should try another 6800GT Bios, as a 6800GT runs faster than an Ultra at the same clock speeds due to faster memory. I was told this, so I re-flashed to another 6800GT Bios which overclocks just as well as the 6800U bios. The only thing I changed on the 6800GT bios with NiBiTor(Nvidia Bios Editor) was the voltage to the chip, from 1.3v to 1.4v. I got about a 300 point increase in 3DMark2005 by reverting to a 6800GT bios at the same clocks, and this is especially noticeable in games. If you would like, I could send you the bios I am using so you don't have to go through the trouble of editing it yourself. Just PM me your contact info and I will try and get back to you as soon as possible.

HawgsHead · May 27, 2005, 10:09 PM

GEEZ.....How old is this thread?4-6 weeks I bet.