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Old Mar 2, 2005, 12:41 AM   #1
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which cooler for k7

i have an althon xp 2600 mobile and i dont know which cooler to choose?

options

Gigabyte 3d Cooler Pro (not rocket)
Thermaltake Volcano 11+
Jet 7 (not 7+)

any advice
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Old Mar 2, 2005, 12:48 PM   #2
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Unless you're planning on some heavy overclocking, It's not the most demanding of applications... lets see...
http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040212/ Gigabyte - and at 430 grams and 88mm high, that's a lot of leverage on the socket mounts
http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/20...cooler-04.html
At min RPM, it's quieter but slightly less effective than an XP3200+ boxed cooler, while at max RPM, it's louder and better.


http://www.a1-electronics.net/Heatsi...1+_Jun03.shtml Thermaltake
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...evolcano11.php
The first review puts it as about the worst in their test, the second puts it ahead of the X-Dream.


http://www.cooltechzone.com/reviews/cooling/jet7_1.php - and the Jet 7
http://www.cooltechzone.com/reviews/cooling/jet7_10.php - a rather poor showing there! - and they certainly don't mince their words on the next page!

http://metku.net/?sect=view&n=0&path...jet7/index_eng - another Jet 7 review
http://metku.net/index.html?sect=vie...et7/index_eng4 - and another unimpressive showing
It fared better on the higher CPU, where it's high and low settings bracketed the performance of really well chosen reference.

http://www.spire-coolers.com/fcc.asp?prodid=86 - The 80mm fan, on a tapered fin profile Cu-Al heatsing - the Spire "Rock" models really rock when it comes to a no-nonsense heatsink for cooling standard setups - and they are usually quieter than a throttled-back monster for an "normal" cooling level.
I'd suggest the "Whisper Rock" instead of the Falcon though.

http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?page=spireverticool - Hold the front page!
Now that is some serious cooling for a seriously low price.
Oops, unfair test, as they replaced the fan!

Still, the verticool looks like a pretty fair cooler, and would probably work VERY well with a bottom intake PSU, as all the heatsink outflow aims toward it.
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Old Mar 2, 2005, 01:16 PM   #3
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DO NOT get the craptastic thermaltake one. It was my last heatsink, and it will be the last thermaltake HSF i ever buy. It was tremendously loud, and wasn't that great of a HSF. I would rather keep a stock fan than that thing.
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Old Mar 3, 2005, 12:30 PM   #4
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I should mentionthe HSF's I've used:

1. No-name, with 5000+ rpm 60mm fan
Not quiet, not cool, not good enough!

2. Thermosonic Thermoengine V60-4210
Not bad, fairly quiet (stock fan) and adequate cooling, apparently takes more powerful fans well.
Unusual "through flow" design with a central core (described as either solid, hollow, or filled with some form of heat transfer improver) surrounded by fins.
(Still in use).

3. Spire "Rock" and/or similar Speeze models, 80mm fan on Cu-Al tapered fin unit
Replaced the "no name" as the computer fair "standard" that most traders had - generally quieter and better cooling than any 60mm fanned unit - this style represented the move to mainstream of the 80mm fanned heatsink.

4. Arctic Cooling "Copper Silent" 2L
80mm open-frame fan (illuminated, not that I care) over a large Al finblock, bonded to a smaller copper transfer plate.
http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/ar...ccooling_3.htm
As in that review, I'm a little sceptical of the copper content.
Plus point, the 3-step fan speed, and I needed a spare cooler, as the fan on the 4210 is not as quiet as it used to be. At £10 (UK) for a name-brand HSF seemed good (though as it turns out, probably about the same as online +P&P)

I could try an 80-60 adapter and fan on it on it, I suppose.
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I was in love with my thermaltake silent boost. It does 21dba and can keep a regular athlon xp non overclocked and cool.
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Old Mar 6, 2005, 02:51 AM   #6
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ok so volcano 11+ is out

loudness is allowes as i want it to cover the cracking noise from the HDD

i want to got to 2.4ghz atleast

i dont think spire is an option for ne...or is it? here is the link

[color=#0000ff]http://www.poweroptionz.com/prod_listing_sub.asp?subid=CPU%20cooling&id=17[/color]
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Old Mar 6, 2005, 03:05 AM   #7
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you read PCPP?


id get the Thermaltake B7000-cu

best thing out
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Old Mar 8, 2005, 02:23 AM   #8
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whats pcpp

thermal b7000 does not exist...its zalman...either way its not compatible with MSI K7N2 Delta L

anything else
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Old Mar 8, 2005, 02:40 AM   #9
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look into ThermalRight heatsinks.....they make some of the best stuff on the market. As for a fan to go w/it, a Vantec Tornado will be awsome (fan controller is necessary to tame that beast) .

Also the Vantec Aeroflow is an awsome HSF is you want the best for around $30 (US).
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Old Mar 9, 2005, 04:33 AM   #10
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ok once more there is NO thermalright......are u sure with the Vantec?
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Old Mar 9, 2005, 01:36 PM   #11
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ok once more there is NO thermalright......are u sure with the Vantec?
lol.....my bad about the thermalright .

well, here's a link for the vantec aeroflow. You can find it on newegg as well. It's an awsome HSF . I installed that on my sister's xp2400 and it does a lot better job than the cooler master HSF she had on there before. I had the p4 version on system as well a while back, but later upgraded to a thermalright HSF. It did me well. I believe you should be happy w/the vantec aeroflow .
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Old Mar 12, 2005, 04:07 AM   #12
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isnt that small...i think gigabyte would do a better job coz its got more fins
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Old Mar 12, 2005, 04:57 AM   #13
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Small as compared to what? The vantec aeroflow has some pretty awsome fins to it as well. Very deep. It also has a copper core so it is more efficient at keeping the CPU cool.
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ok once more there is NO thermalright......are u sure with the Vantec?
Hmmm...there is the Thermalright SI-97, it's an XP-90 clone for the socket A family..


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Old Mar 13, 2005, 02:19 AM   #15
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http://www.fastlanehw.com/reviews.php?i=122&page=3

it does show good performance...and there is a copper core...small enough to cover the athlon xp die.,..plkus this page overclocks to 2.4ghz as well...hmmm thanks for the advice it will do more research...

http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-211-2.htm

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi..._flow_2_p2.php


i cant believe nobody ever told me to get this in other forums....it was infront of my eyes all the time....
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SLK800U or AXL-800 are the best you can gwet that will still fit on most boards
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im getting it for $20 plus artic silver 5 for $10...its a better combination

....stilll....sometimes i think that the gigabyte will be able to cool the whole computer becoz of the tower like design.....
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im getting it for $20 plus artic silver 5 for $10...its a better combination

....stilll....sometimes i think that the gigabyte will be able to cool the whole computer becoz of the tower like design.....
I honestly don't think so. My reason for thinking like that is because I think that in order for something to cool as efficiently as possible, there needs to be as much mass as possible close to the core of the CPU. Having a somewhat thin plate with heat pipes rising to a larger more massive metal will not cool as efficiently as having mass placed directly above it.

I can say this from experience. Back when i had my old athlon xp2400 and xp2500 chips, i had the ThermalTake Volcano 11+ CPU cooler. I thought it did pretty well. It was constructed of all copper material, but it had a very thin plate where it made contact with the core of the CPU. It kept my temps around 39C idle, and around 49C load. Not too shabby I thought.

Then i upgraded my cooling to a ThermalRight SLK-900a paired with an 80mm Vantec Tornado. The SLK-900a was also constructed of all copper, however, the base of it was alot more massive than the ThermalTake Volcano 11+ was. As soon as i installed my SLK-900a, my temps dropped 10C on both idle and load. My new average temps were around 29C idle, and around 39C load. At first i didn't really believe it because i had re-applied the AS 5, and i know that it takes about a week for it to settle in properly. So over the next few days and weeks i kept checking back on my CPU temps, and they stayed right in that range ~30C idle, and ~40C load.

I was really impressed by the cooling performance of the SLK-900a.

So all i'm trying to say here, is that i do not think that the design of the gigabyte cooler will be as effective at cooling your socket A chip as other HSF combinations will be. But hey, if you want to get that gigabyte cooler, go ahead, it's your computer .
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