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Sep 21, 2004, 04:44 PM
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Burned
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 29,642
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Catalyst AI
Please vote
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Sep 21, 2004, 04:54 PM
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第3 子供
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Nerv HQ
Posts: 1,322
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I won't say no to added functionality even though I may not intend on using it in every case. It shows what ATi 'is made of' with this kind of development behind the Catalyst driver suite. I don't mean to sound like a kiss arse or an ATi apostle; but I really am satisfied with their product and the support behind it.
New features are good features (unless they break something  )
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Sep 21, 2004, 05:00 PM
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#3
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Respect Human Rights
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MD. US
Posts: 154
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I have to think it's a great "concept" and the more control the user has is for the better.I just would like to reserve judgement until it is actually available for the end user.I really hope they also can deliver the new CCC with the ability to disable the splash screen and preview screen but I understand these things can take time.Great work ATI ,at least in preview, so far.ATI,it's these times of honesty and understanding of what your customers want that really make you stand head and shoulders above the competition ,at least in My eyes.Thank you.
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Sep 21, 2004, 05:10 PM
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#4
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: San Diego, Ca
Posts: 716
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First of all i am glad that ATI is doing more to satisfy there customers. I will wait and see when this AI comes out. Several questions come to mind, like will this hog up ram? Will this AI increase the temp of the card? This is what i like about ATI monthly drivers, new ideas and looks out for its customers. This is why i will stay with ATI. Even though i wish that several companies **Cough*** like UBI, would look out for there customers.
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Sep 21, 2004, 08:43 PM
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#5
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ein Krieger
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Clemson Uni
Posts: 3,127
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too many ati polls haha, i cant vote 
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Sep 21, 2004, 09:03 PM
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#6
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Mr. Nobody
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher
Posts: 5,933
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I allways prefer to try it first and then comment, that way i can talk about something i have experienced and not BS about it. 
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Sep 21, 2004, 09:07 PM
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Avril Fan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: somewhere in colombia, okok, bogotá city :p
Posts: 1,252
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i actually would love it if it could be used on old cp as well, but i prefer not saying anything until it i try it
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Sep 21, 2004, 11:09 PM
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DriverHeaven Newbie
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 6
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i think it's a great idea...we'll have to see if it performs well as it is said..
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Sep 22, 2004, 12:09 AM
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watching 1080i
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: April 13th 2029
Posts: 19,429
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The more control the better obviously- Just don't sacrifice old controls for new controls.
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Sep 22, 2004, 01:45 AM
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Banned
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 2,108
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I do have some faith in ATI, but I will first see then believe.
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Sep 22, 2004, 01:54 AM
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MC John-117
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 729
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I'm the same with most of you guys. I want to try it, before I comment on it.
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Sep 22, 2004, 02:07 AM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China
Posts: 1,236
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me too.
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Sep 22, 2004, 04:26 AM
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alpha male
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: offpiste
Posts: 5,498
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the more options we get to choose from the better, obviously, although it doesn't seem very useful as it defaults to the best setting anyway..
personally i think they churned it out in an attempt to justify the not so popular CCC
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Sep 22, 2004, 10:30 AM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 127
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As long as I (and hardware review sites) can turn it off, I'm willing to give it a shot. But, except for AA, IQ isn't a THAT big of a thing for me, I'm usually too busy trying to survive the game then stare at the pretty pictures. 
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Sep 23, 2004, 12:21 AM
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DH's Unofficial Hero
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Montreal
Posts: 651
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Try it then comment...cause i thought i was gonna LOVE ccc but i dont like it, right now that is. Im gonna try it every release and get used to it till i have to use it.
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Sep 23, 2004, 03:25 PM
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Demonic
Join Date: May 2002
Location: In the cold, dark north...
Posts: 5,097
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I want to try it first, unfortunally i'll have to try it at the girlfriends rig... 
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Sep 25, 2004, 07:42 PM
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Tweeker
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kitchener
Posts: 611
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I prefer to try it first before commenting on it, I didn't like the "old" new cp, so if it is like that, then I won't be using it.
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Jan 22, 2005, 08:21 PM
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3dcenter.de
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hessen, Germany
Posts: 118
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[X] I think its a great concept, the more control we have the better!
Drivers equipped with Catalyst A.I. (4.10+) outperform their older brothers in almost every application and do not kill any quality--it can't get much better. Only the "Advanced"-setting isn't very useful IMHO 'cause the textures suffer of unwanted blurring in many cases.
Greetings from Germany,
Raff
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Jan 23, 2005, 02:36 AM
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watching 1080i
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: April 13th 2029
Posts: 19,429
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Raff_3DC
[X] [i]Only the "Advanced"-setting isn't very useful IMHO 'cause the textures suffer of unwanted blurring in many cases.
Raff
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Give screenshots--- Otherwise I wouldn't go around making false claims about image quality.
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Jan 23, 2005, 04:45 PM
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3dcenter.de
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hessen, Germany
Posts: 118
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by BWX
Give screenshots--- Otherwise I wouldn't go around making false claims about image quality.
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Just take a look into the article in my sig-- klick!. 
Especially in Half-Life² and Serious Sam 2nd Encounter you can see the difference.
Greetings from Germany,
Raff
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Jan 23, 2005, 04:58 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 2,772
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Raff_3DC
Just take a look into the article in my sig-- klick!. 
Especially in Half-Life² and Serious Sam 2nd Encounter you can see the difference.
Greetings from Germany,
Raff
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I have matched images side by side, and can't tell the difference. Can someone perhaps show me the difference if any at all?
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Jan 23, 2005, 05:05 PM
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3dcenter.de
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hessen, Germany
Posts: 118
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Do you have an image-viewer where you can switch between 2 pictures via mousewheel? With Irfanview it works nice.
After saving and opening them look at the stonefloor and the light in the sky in Serious Sam. Quite obvious I think.
Greetings,
Raff
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Jan 23, 2005, 05:08 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 2,772
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I'll have another look 
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Jan 23, 2005, 11:50 PM
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watching 1080i
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: April 13th 2029
Posts: 19,429
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That is a very nice article, but I gotta say I cannot see anything in those comparative screenshots that look like worse image quality with advanced AI. Maybe slightly different only in the Serious Sam screen- but nothing I could say is "reduced" Image quality. I use Normal AI for Richard burns rally, Advanced seems to cause stuttering sometimes. I will keep trying it out with every now driver though.
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Jan 24, 2005, 06:44 AM
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3dcenter.de
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hessen, Germany
Posts: 118
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I agree with you with the fact that it's only a marginal difference--but the quality is definetely a little worse. If you take a look at the screens closely, you'll see what I mean.
For example the already mentioned SeSam: the stonefloor with A.I. @ advanced has an other color than on the screen with A.I. @ standard. There's also a difference in sharpness in the foreground (hope it's the right word  ) .. and the lighting looks kinda "compressed" (except the compression artifacts thanks to JPG which can be seen on both screens  ).
Or Half-Life²: Focus on the wall at the left of the screen und switch between the two pics. The shot made with advanced-A.I. shows a little blur there, the texture-sharpness is reduced.
Ok, if you don't know how it looks with A.I. @ off or standard, you wouldn't notice I think. But in fact, there's a reduction in image quality ... and optimizations like that aren't very popular.
Greetings,
Raff
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Jan 24, 2005, 03:58 PM
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watching 1080i
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: April 13th 2029
Posts: 19,429
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Yeah I guess people with really fast cards can just turn it off. I will use it if I can get some more speed out of my OLD 9700pro with out too much IQ loss 
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