LIVE! IR Drive + Audigy 2 ZS = Audigy 2 ZS platinum??

Ryeeson · Jul 26, 2004, 10:52 PM

now i'm using the old creative sound blaster live 5.1 platinum . I want to upgrade to creative SB audigy 2 ZS but i was wondering if i can connect my live! IR drive to this new one. Audigy 2 ZS platinum has. so i think that it should be able too. Any one trying this before? may be i need some hardware configuration?

see guy.. this Live IR is just an extension for SBLive 5.1 platinum card. as well as SB audigy 2 ZS paltinum. there must be some '#%^$' for this stuff.

i've read some topic on this forum tells.. for those who have the creative sound blaster live/audigy can be modify to an audigy 2?? so how about the 24 bit since the Live card only 16 bit??

Please help me.

**dj_stick** · Jul 27, 2004, 12:07 AM

you can create a custom cable to connect the audigy 2 to the live drive IR as long as the audigy card has the AD_EXT connector
however, the converters on the live! drive are only 16 bit afaik, so 24 true 24 bit recording is impossible using thte live! drive

Samir · Jul 27, 2004, 05:48 AM

Ryeeson:

It would be really useful for you to try connecting LiveDrive IR to your Audigy2 card. First you'll have to make custom cable, like dj_stick mentioned. See pinout for the AUD_EXT (Live! Drive) connector, than comare it to the AD_EXT connector. There has been al least one user on this forum who confirmed that this is possible! Dont't worry about 96khz/24bit recording, you can get it trough line in connector at back of your card, by using AC97 bypassing method. If you are going to connect your LiveDrive to Audigy2, please reply, I'll try to help as much a I can!

Thank you!

**dj_stick** · Jul 27, 2004, 05:50 AM

Ryesson, take Samir's advice - he did most of the work mapping that pinout, and any feedback will help him prove it to be true

Ryeeson · Jul 27, 2004, 11:19 PM

yes i'm about to. thank you.i really appreciate. sorry because this late reply. i've moving to my new house so still dont have the internet service and my exam is comming soon so very sorry for this late reply. ok so back to the topic. is there any diferent between the Audigy 2 and audigy 1? because i need at less audigy card that have the AD_EXT port right?

Ryeeson · Jul 27, 2004, 11:52 PM

can you do please list for me what stuff we are going to use?

**dj_stick** · Jul 28, 2004, 02:21 AM

Live and Audigy cards use (AUD_EXT) where as Audigy 2 cards use (AD_EXT) to connect to the front bay drives
you will need to fashion a cable (or group of cables) connecting each corresponding pin between the a2zs and the live drive

Samir · Jul 28, 2004, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryeeson
can you do please list for me what stuff we are going to use?

Dobro, you'll need to make cable (or cables

) to connect your Audigy2 to LiveDriveIR as follows:

Code:

              purpose:    Audigy2 pins:    LiveDriveIR pins:

                  +5V:         1 ------------- 1 or 2, no difference...
                  GND:         3 ------------- 3
                  GND:         7 ------------- 7
                  GND:         8 ------------- 8
                  GND:        14 ------------- 14
                  GND:        16 ------------- 16
                  GND:        18 ------------- 18
                  GND:        20 ------------- 20
                  GND:        28 ------------- 28
                  GND:        32 ------------- 32
                  GND:        38 ------------- 38

             MIDI out:        37 ------------> 25
              MIDI in:        39 <------------ 27
           SPDIF0 out:         9 ------------> 17
           SPDIF1 out:        29 ------------> 19
           SPDIF2 out:        31 ------------> 22
           SPDIF3 out:        27 ------------> 9
             SPDIF in:         5 <------------ 15 (if doesn't work try 6 instead of 15)
 AC97CLK/P16V 24.5MHz:        13 ------------> 4
          I2S1 (Aux2):        19 <------------ 33
 I2S2(ALine-in2/Mic2):        21 <------------ 31
                 GPI0:        35 <------------ 23   \    Connecting only 35 <-- 23
                 GPI1:        33 <------------ 24   |    & 25 --> 13 should work. 
                 GPO0:        25 ------------> 13    >-  You need to get 'LiveBay0'
                 GPO1:        23 ------------> 10   |    in kX driver's About box.
                 GPO2:        24 ------------> 11   /    Other pins could be for IR

Please inform me when you do it! I'm eager to see how it's works!

Second step is to confirm if you can get 'LiveBay0' or something like that in kX driver's About box...

Ryeeson · Jul 28, 2004, 10:22 PM

oh.. this is really nice. what do uou mean about the 'LiveBay0' ? it is a driver or pitch? bay the way, i figure out there is a pin that useless ?? or no in the list? what happend to them? i will make my cable asap.

**dj_stick** · Jul 29, 2004, 12:11 AM

livebay0 will tell kX that there is a live drive installed

Samir · Jul 29, 2004, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryeeson
oh.. this is really nice. what do uou mean about the 'LiveBay0' ? it is a driver or pitch? bay the way, i figure out there is a pin that useless ?? or no in the list? what happend to them? i will make my cable asap.

Are you using kX drivers or creative junk?

Don't worry about unused pins, Audigy2 doesn't need them...

Ryeeson · Jul 29, 2004, 12:40 PM

ops.. i guess i still using the creative driver..

do i really need the audigy 2 ZS or just audigy 1??

please advise me. tomorrow i'm going to grab the audigy card... i'm completely newbie

di_stick, do the creative bundle software work fine with kx driver?

**dj_stick** · Jul 29, 2004, 06:13 PM

i have no idea, i have never installed creative software for mt 10kX cards

Samir · Jul 29, 2004, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryeeson
ops.. i guess i still using the creative driver.. do i really need the audigy 2 ZS or just audigy 1?? please advise me. tomorrow i'm going to grab the audigy card... i'm completely newbie
di_stick, do the creative bundle software work fine with kx driver?

Ok, you said that you have(?) Audigy2 ZS & LiveDrive IR avaliable... We'll try to connect these for good...

It doesn't matter if you are using kX or Creative drivers to me, but i would reccomend kX; it works fine with games (no EAX dough, but 3D sound positining is fine), and it's great if you are into music listening and/or creation... kX has superior sound quallity. Creative software bundle should not work with kX driver, but if you ever use kX, you'll find that 'bundle' = rubbish.

Try & see for yourself!

Anyways, when you are ready (finished cable) to connect your Audigy2 to LiveDrive IR, no matter what drivers you prefer, post here...

Good luck!

Ryeeson · Jul 29, 2004, 10:57 PM

i see ..

well we'll be in touch shortly.

Ryeeson · Aug 6, 2004, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dj_stick
i have no idea, i have never installed creative software for mt 10kX cards

Hai again, i've a problem here.. i dont understand this
GPI0: Connecting only 35 <-- 23
| & 25 --> 13 should work.
>- You need to get 'LiveBay0'
| in kX driver's About box.
GPO2: 24 ------------> 11 / Other pins could be for IR
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

where exactly the pin no.11 is.

i'm afraid there is no header for the pin no.11 and no.12 on the live! drive.

Samir · Aug 6, 2004, 12:41 PM

Checkout this thread about AUD_EXT (LiveDrive) pinout... Seems you ar looking at your connector upside down!

Don't worry about note i specified, just connect everything, and we should see if it works...

StainlessSteel · Mar 26, 2005, 12:55 AM

Hi All,

I'm trying to do something similar. I had an Audigy Platinum (model SB0090). The Card died but (I assume) the drive (front panel connector box) is still good.

I bought an Audigy 2 ZS, connected the cable, but no joy... Is the pinout different? Will the Audig2ZS drive an Audigy connector box?

Any ideas or help?

Thanks.

**dj_stick** · Mar 26, 2005, 03:14 AM

pinouts are different
refer to the thread mentioned in my post above for more details on what is required

StainlessSteel · Mar 26, 2005, 01:24 PM

Thanks DJ...

Yeow!! They are very very different pinouts....

I'm going to post folloowups to the other thread on exactly this topic.

Thanks.

ravelino · May 21, 2005, 05:14 AM

Hello, I would like to connect my Live! Drive IR bay (SB0010D) with remote RM900 to my Audigy 2 ZS sound card, I red this post and i am happy to find out that its possible...

Now my problem is that i'm totally zero at hardware stuff, making cables etc

nor i don't know where it is possible here in my city to make a flat cable to connect the IR device to the audigy 2 ZS ...So i'm here to ask for a big favour...

i ask if someone in this forum can make this cable for me, obviously i will pay every cost needed for it and shipping to my country, I am from Italy. If someone of you can do this for me..i will be so glad.. If you need detailed pics of the Live Drive IR or the sound card to see connectors and pins...i will try to support you for everything. Please let me know.

Rave

ravelino · Jun 15, 2005, 06:23 AM

Nobody can help me?

Maybe i've found someone who can make the cable but.... there are so many posts here, full of modifications and adjustment... bridges and other things...

Can someone be so gentle to post here... the final scheme i need to make this flat cable? Once and for all............. please. Sorry, i'm hard-headed....

Maddogg6 · Jul 9, 2005, 12:45 PM

confirmed in US - creative software does NOT work with KX driver (3538g)
THE ONLY software distributed by creative that I found works is Viennna.
Rythmania (from old live card) does not work either (no devise found) as it doesnt recognise the any of the midi drivers. Which sucks cuz I liked playing around with this one. I hate loosing functionality when upgrading. But that has nothing to do with KX

.

micronews · Jul 12, 2005, 10:34 PM

Hi friends,

I'm from Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)
Thanks for every post in this thread.
I could make the cable, but the Microphone and Line Aux 2 are not working.
They are making too much noises... Any Ideia?

You should SEE the pictures

[color=white]http://www.agcsolucoes.com/images/DSCF0024.jpg[/color]
[color=white]http://www.agcsolucoes.com/images/DSCF0027.jpg[/color]
[color=white]http://www.agcsolucoes.com/images/DSCF0032.jpg[/color]

**dj_stick** · Jul 13, 2005, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micronews

I could make the cable, but the Microphone and Line Aux 2 are not working.

read the thread linked in p17 for why and for possible solutions

Maddogg6 · Jul 13, 2005, 03:41 AM

WOW what a pile of spagetti. Did you check out your wiring fot the 11th time yet. I have to wonder - thats too easy to make wiring mistakes (Check resistance of each solder joint too) there sould BE NO/very very little differences in the <1 ohm range.

**dj_stick** · Jul 13, 2005, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddogg6

WOW what a pile of spagetti. Did you check out your wiring fot the 11th time yet. I have to wonder - thats too easy to make wiring mistakes (Check resistance of each solder joint too) there sould BE NO/very very little differences in the <1 ohm range.

wiring is not the problem

incompatibilities between the sample rates of the chips on the live drive and the receptors on the audigy 2 are

Broedie · Aug 14, 2005, 08:02 PM

I have just tried to connect my Audigy Drive to the Audigy2 ZS card I just purchased using the directions in this post. I do not get functionality out of anything. Alls I am looking for is to have the headphone jack work on the front panel. Can anyone provide some help???

dj_knightz · Jun 13, 2006, 02:51 AM

I hooked up my Audigy with the Live!Drive IR from my SB live! platinum, because the interface wires seem to be compatible; however, the drive does not function or respond to anything. Is there any way I can enable it's use with RemoteCenter (doesn't detect it) or something else? Or maybe the drive is now broken somehow?

Thanks

mrvomit · Jun 16, 2006, 10:09 AM

audigy 1 you mean?
dunno if "Live drive Ir(5.1 cards)=" + audigy 1 cards are compatible.
I wonder if.

Jul 26, 2004, 10:52 PM	#1
Ryeeson DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: promised land Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	LIVE! IR Drive + Audigy 2 ZS = Audigy 2 ZS platinum?? now i'm using the old creative sound blaster live 5.1 platinum . I want to upgrade to creative SB audigy 2 ZS but i was wondering if i can connect my live! IR drive to this new one. Audigy 2 ZS platinum has. so i think that it should be able too. Any one trying this before? may be i need some hardware configuration? see guy.. this Live IR is just an extension for SBLive 5.1 platinum card. as well as SB audigy 2 ZS paltinum. there must be some '#%^$' for this stuff. i've read some topic on this forum tells.. for those who have the creative sound blaster live/audigy can be modify to an audigy 2?? so how about the 24 bit since the Live card only 16 bit?? Please help me.

Jul 27, 2004, 05:48 AM	#3
Samir kX Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 521 Rep Power: 0	Ryeeson: It would be really useful for you to try connecting LiveDrive IR to your Audigy2 card. First you'll have to make custom cable, like dj_stick mentioned. See pinout for the AUD_EXT (Live! Drive) connector, than comare it to the AD_EXT connector. There has been al least one user on this forum who confirmed that this is possible! Dont't worry about 96khz/24bit recording, you can get it trough line in connector at back of your card, by using AC97 bypassing method. If you are going to connect your LiveDrive to Audigy2, please reply, I'll try to help as much a I can! Thank you! __________________ MU3NKA 3A HAPO6!

Aug 6, 2004, 12:41 PM	#17
Samir kX Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 521 Rep Power: 0	Checkout this thread about AUD_EXT (LiveDrive) pinout... Seems you ar looking at your connector upside down! Don't worry about note i specified, just connect everything, and we should see if it works... __________________ MU3NKA 3A HAPO6!

Mar 26, 2005, 12:55 AM	#18
StainlessSteel DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Hi All, I'm trying to do something similar. I had an Audigy Platinum (model SB0090). The Card died but (I assume) the drive (front panel connector box) is still good. I bought an Audigy 2 ZS, connected the cable, but no joy... Is the pinout different? Will the Audig2ZS drive an Audigy connector box? Any ideas or help? Thanks. Last edited by StainlessSteel; Mar 26, 2005 at 01:35 AM.

Jul 12, 2005, 10:34 PM	#24
micronews DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I made the cable to Adapt my Audigy 1 Drive on Audigy2 Hi friends, I'm from Rio de Janeiro (Brazil) Thanks for every post in this thread. I could make the cable, but the Microphone and Line Aux 2 are not working. They are making too much noises... Any Ideia? You should SEE the pictures [color=white]http://www.agcsolucoes.com/images/DSCF0024.jpg[/color] [color=white]http://www.agcsolucoes.com/images/DSCF0027.jpg[/color] [color=white]http://www.agcsolucoes.com/images/DSCF0032.jpg[/color]

Jul 27, 2004, 11:19 PM	#5
Ryeeson DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: promised land Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	yes i'm about to. thank you.i really appreciate. sorry because this late reply. i've moving to my new house so still dont have the internet service and my exam is comming soon so very sorry for this late reply. ok so back to the topic. is there any diferent between the Audigy 2 and audigy 1? because i need at less audigy card that have the AD_EXT port right?

Jul 27, 2004, 11:52 PM	#6
Ryeeson DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: promised land Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	can you do please list for me what stuff we are going to use?

Jul 28, 2004, 10:22 PM	#9
Ryeeson DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: promised land Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	oh.. this is really nice. what do uou mean about the 'LiveBay0' ? it is a driver or pitch? bay the way, i figure out there is a pin that useless ?? or no in the list? what happend to them? i will make my cable asap.

Jul 29, 2004, 12:40 PM	#12
Ryeeson DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: promised land Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	ops.. i guess i still using the creative driver.. do i really need the audigy 2 ZS or just audigy 1?? please advise me. tomorrow i'm going to grab the audigy card... i'm completely newbie di_stick, do the creative bundle software work fine with kx driver?

Jul 29, 2004, 10:57 PM	#15
Ryeeson DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: promised land Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	i see .. well we'll be in touch shortly.

Mar 26, 2005, 01:24 PM	#20
StainlessSteel DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Thanks DJ... Yeow!! They are very very different pinouts.... I'm going to post folloowups to the other thread on exactly this topic. Thanks.

May 21, 2005, 05:14 AM	#21
ravelino DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Hello, I would like to connect my Live! Drive IR bay (SB0010D) with remote RM900 to my Audigy 2 ZS sound card, I red this post and i am happy to find out that its possible... Now my problem is that i'm totally zero at hardware stuff, making cables etc nor i don't know where it is possible here in my city to make a flat cable to connect the IR device to the audigy 2 ZS ...So i'm here to ask for a big favour... i ask if someone in this forum can make this cable for me, obviously i will pay every cost needed for it and shipping to my country, I am from Italy. If someone of you can do this for me..i will be so glad.. If you need detailed pics of the Live Drive IR or the sound card to see connectors and pins...i will try to support you for everything. Please let me know. Rave

Jun 15, 2005, 06:23 AM	#22
ravelino DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Nobody can help me? Maybe i've found someone who can make the cable but.... there are so many posts here, full of modifications and adjustment... bridges and other things... Can someone be so gentle to post here... the final scheme i need to make this flat cable? Once and for all............. please. Sorry, i'm hard-headed....

Jul 9, 2005, 12:45 PM	#23
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	confirmed in US - creative software does NOT work with KX driver (3538g) THE ONLY software distributed by creative that I found works is Viennna. Rythmania (from old live card) does not work either (no devise found) as it doesnt recognise the any of the midi drivers. Which sucks cuz I liked playing around with this one. I hate loosing functionality when upgrading. But that has nothing to do with KX .

Jul 13, 2005, 03:41 AM	#26
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	WOW what a pile of spagetti. Did you check out your wiring fot the 11th time yet. I have to wonder - thats too easy to make wiring mistakes (Check resistance of each solder joint too) there sould BE NO/very very little differences in the <1 ohm range.

Aug 14, 2005, 08:02 PM	#28
Broedie DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I have just tried to connect my Audigy Drive to the Audigy2 ZS card I just purchased using the directions in this post. I do not get functionality out of anything. Alls I am looking for is to have the headphone jack work on the front panel. Can anyone provide some help???

Jun 13, 2006, 02:51 AM	#29
dj_knightz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	What about regular Audigy with Live! Drive? I hooked up my Audigy with the Live!Drive IR from my SB live! platinum, because the interface wires seem to be compatible; however, the drive does not function or respond to anything. Is there any way I can enable it's use with RemoteCenter (doesn't detect it) or something else? Or maybe the drive is now broken somehow? Thanks

Jun 16, 2006, 10:09 AM	#30
mrvomit DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 252 Rep Power: 0	audigy 1 you mean? dunno if "Live drive Ir(5.1 cards)=" + audigy 1 cards are compatible. I wonder if. __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP