Which

Marv|n · Dec 29, 2003, 04:25 PM

After counting my money after christmas i see that i have enough to upgrade my 3d card after i buy a guitar. So probably alot of people have asked this but.

SAPPHIRE R9800 SE 128MB ? 201,49

MEMORY MHz 600 MHz
RAMDAC MHz 400 MHz
ENGINE MHz 325 MHz

ASUSTEK R9600XT 128 MB ? 209,84

MEMORY MHz 600 MHz
RAMDAC MHz 400 MHz
ENGINE MHz 500 MHz

which one

**MIG-31** · Dec 29, 2003, 04:39 PM

my choice.

ASUSTEK R9600XT 128 MB ? 209,84

MEMORY MHz 600 MHz
RAMDAC MHz 400 MHz
ENGINE MHz 500 MHz

se's are not as good as they seem.

dorkz · Dec 29, 2003, 04:56 PM

ASUSTEK R9600XT

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 29, 2003, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marv|n
After counting my money after christmas i see that i have enough to upgrade my 3d card after i buy a guitar. So probably alot of people have asked this but.

SAPPHIRE R9800 SE 128MB ? 201,49

MEMORY MHz 600 MHz
ENGINE MHz 325 MHz

ASUSTEK R9600XT 128 MB ? 209,84

MEMORY MHz 600 MHz
ENGINE MHz 500 MHz

which one

i garente you'll get what u pay for
if you gona get a good video card dont skimp

get the pro or the xt
other wise by a 4200 ti and forgo the hardware dx9 support

the desideing factor is if you play games.... if you dont gabe the se if you do grab a pro or xt

Markius · Dec 29, 2003, 10:28 PM

read this ~ http://www.ixbt-labs.com/articles2/over2003/index.html

then decide based on what games you play mostly

toddsmack2k · Dec 31, 2003, 04:50 AM

9600XT

**Roadee** · Dec 31, 2003, 04:56 AM

9600 xt

sbrehm72255 · Jan 3, 2004, 01:53 PM

I'd get a 9800NP at least if you can find one, check pricewatch.com or a pro card. they can be had for around $250 OEM or $268 retail card. SE stands for Shitty Edition.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 4, 2004, 01:50 AM

bah forget what i said eairlier get the 9600xt

i bought one, it seems to score slight under that of when i had a 4200 ti
but with the dx9 hardware support and the free half life 2 it's a steal

(and for the record a 9800 np is slowr then a 9600XT and the 9800 costs more)

Ev!L-aLphA · Jan 4, 2004, 02:02 AM

asus xt for sure ulll be very happy wif it!

mainman · Jan 4, 2004, 02:16 AM

9600 xt...

KiwiRack · Jan 4, 2004, 03:46 AM

Well, I like to save when possible! But if you can see better results than a 9500 Pro OC'd to 9700 Pro; or even stock -On real life games, please let me know. Just bought another...'Hint'

But remember it's not just the card, it's really the system

Cheers

sbrehm72255 · Jan 4, 2004, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
bah forget what i said eairlier get the 9600xt

i bought one, it seems to score slight under that of when i had a 4200 ti
but with the dx9 hardware support and the free half life 2 it's a steal

(and for the record a 9800 np is slowr then a 9600XT and the 9800 costs more)

For the record: Not if you know what you're doing and set it up right and reflash to a pro. You can get them to OC to around XT speeds............

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 4, 2004, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sbrehm72255
For the record: Not if you know what you're doing and set it up right and reflash to a pro. You can get them to OC to around XT speeds............

yes but at thier stock speeds a 9600xt beats them... they have only 4 pixel pipelines which put them in th boat with the xt. and the xt's running 500mhz/600mhz

for the record after free software and games i got my 9600 xt retail for about $39.00

pap64 · Jan 4, 2004, 10:35 AM

get the 9600XT i've got one and it rules for the bucks. the 5700 ultra can bearly keep up in all the shoot outs i've seen between the two. and the XT will have some neat features in the future that non xt card will not be able to take advantage of! had a few small problems when i got the card but i mostly attribute that to the fact that i've only owned nVidia before this ATI 9600XT

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The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 4, 2004, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pap64
get the 9600XT i've got one and it rules for the bucks. the 5700 ultra can bearly keep up in all the shoot outs i've seen between the two. and the XT will have some neat features in the future that non xt card will not be able to take advantage of! had a few small problems when i got the card but i mostly attribute that to the fact that i've only owned nVidia before this ATI 9600XT

in all fair ness the 5700 ultra and the 9600XT are with in 5% of each other in most testet...
acording to toms hardware "it was when we turned on AA the ati card shined"-tomshardware

pap64 · Jan 4, 2004, 10:53 AM

ahhh but the ATI card shined and the 5700 ultra never really did in the quility department and that's what i'm in it for. all the games i play ( COD, Halo, TFC, NFS) are played with everything turned up for the very best quility and no game do i get less than 75 fps (v-sync on) on average and never dips below 40 fps at 1152x864 75mhz refresh rate. so i'd say for what i'm looking for, quility, the 9600XT blew the compitition away!

sbrehm72255 · Jan 4, 2004, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
yes but at thier stock speeds a 9600xt beats them... they have only 4 pixel pipelines which put them in th boat with the xt. and the xt's running 500mhz/600mhz

for the record after free software and games i got my 9600 xt retail for about $39.00

9800NP have 8 pipe lines, the SE's have 4 pipes. You need to get the specs right. the NPs are just like a pro at lower clock rate and different speed memory.
Read this chart to get your info straight:

http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/compare.html