Mineral oil....

The_Neon_Cowboy

why has no one tried any Mineral Oil.... setups? have you ever seen these? they build the pc in a container of mineral oil ... and use a modified airconditioner core to cool the liqud to freezing temps!
i have seen anyone toteing these in forever... there silent and cold....

Judas

.......neato idea......

The_Neon_Cowboy

its been around since the days of p1's but it seems the ball was dropped somewere ... i wonder why? it would cool every chip.. and make insane o/c's possable

DriveEuro

But probably was a complete pain in the ass to clean off.

Nuke209

The_Neon_Cowboy

Couldn’t be … a little science ....just some rubbing alcohol … it'd float to the top and youd drain it off....

The cooling effects are much better than anything out there you’d pay a ton of $$$ for …
…..and it doesn’t just cool one or two chips it cools every single chip in the system and to freezing temps …


but i wonder what killed the effort from all i've read in the past this was a kick arse way of o/cing stuff way higher then on water or air quite possable the best in existance...

i wonder i it had a corrosive effect?

scobywhru

I think its just the fact people don't want to build that kind of setup and if theymake it for a LAN then its a real pain to move around

P.S. Besides you still need to use a heatsink with the current gen of CPU's the mineral oil just can't take away the heat fast enough

The_Neon_Cowboy

ture it does em a pain but youd figure thered be at lest one guy out there running this way....

TuEKiD

is that realy what i think it is?, a motherboard thats being submerged in Mineral Oil???, WTF?, can som-1 explain to me what is happening in that picture exacly, i dont understand whats happening..

The_Neon_Cowboy

yes it submerged in minral oil .. wich is usally cooled useing a modfied air conditer coil to give freezeing temps 2 the entire motherbroad video card everything..... exept the power supply and drives

mineral oil is not conductive

TuEKiD

sorry if i sound like such a n00b but what do u mean "usaully cooled using a modifed air condtioner", in my mind i see a AC unit blowing cold air right on the "setup", may-b u can be a bit more clear...

TuEKiD

another question, why would u pour the oil on ur Mobo if u planned on "cleaning it off"

ToshiroOC

If I understand correctly, an air conditioner has a compressor unit that goes to two heat exchangers - one gives off heat to the outside, and one cools air. If you remove the one that cools air, and replace it with something that circulates the mineral oil through it for cooling, it would cool the mineral oil and probably more efficiently than simply having cold air blowing on the oil.

Judas

i so want to try this with my little old rig...... just wondering... were can i find a couple gallons of high quality mineral oil... (btw, wouldn't just a tad bit of condensation screw it all up.. as i think water is heavier then the oil..so it would gradually fill up....

TuEKiD

thats pretty wild, i'd love to see what kinda temps u could pull with this, if u were to put Mineral Oil in a water cooling Kit does anyone think it would be more effective?

The_Neon_Cowboy

thats true water us a no no! i dont know that have to be an afull wet place to worry about it... unless your outside lol

its thicker than watter it might burn the motor up! but some peopl used pumps in the past... i have no clue what though

Nuke209

Mineral Oil is sold at stores, I would just grab a bottle and try it on an 486 and see what happen, pictures please

scobywhru

Mineral Oil doesn't have the same thermal capacity as waster so it wouldn't be able to hold as much heat so the cooling wouldn't be as good as the standard watercooling set up

P.S. What mineral oil does though is that it can transfer heat alot better then air and its none conductive... although technically so is pure H2O its just the minerals and salts in the water that make it conductive... actually pure water was used as an insulator on the older tranformers

ToshiroOC

Contaminants from the PCBs would likely make pure water on a circuit board a difficult proposition. Autoionization of water also makes it conductive to a very mild degree - I wouldn't submerge the PSU in water, though the mobo and all would probably be ok.

The_Neon_Cowboy

Yea, but the slightest impurity it would conduct would it not? Also, even pure is slightly corrosive.

scobywhru

actually pure water is very corrosive if I remeber right, it is the best cleaner it will pick up anything that it touches but I may be confused

Trunks0

Then would it not just pick up metals off the mother board it's self and become conductive? Since it would be in direct contact with metals that Iam betting could leach alittle into the water? Since there where never designed to be in contact with somthing like water in the first place?

Oh and I could see some vary sweet plastic cases with mineral oil cooling.....And just think how cool it look the setup would look glowing in whatever colour you choose

The_Neon_Cowboy

lol even IF THE WATTE WAS 100% OK YOUR Fogetting YOUR Chemistry !!!!!

what does led do in watter? is desolves!!!! so not only would it remove the solder from the board the water would become conductive over time!!!

@/2ct!<

You need high quality pure mineral oil as well, stuff in stores can be diluted with water, etc, making conductive, or at very least have some contaminants inside.

scobywhru

But can you say lacquer its been used to keep condensation off boards since people started cooling there computers to subzero temps but we could use it to keep the water off most of the board and should still conduct heat well if placed llightly enough on the board....

AND yes I am thinking of trying something of the sorts on an old PC I have laying around....

The_Neon_Cowboy

thats what of people use cheap stuff from the store..

Judas