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Aug 13, 2003, 12:08 PM
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DH's #1 Hustla and Pimp
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NTFS and DOS question
Guys im thinking about changing over to NTFS. I had it once I didnt enjoy it because I couldnt format in DOS i booted with a plain 98/ME disk i know thats the problem. I had to use partition magic to change it over to FAT 32 again and it was a hassle.
I had 2 drives and one was FAT 32, and this drive contained my raw data (music,movies,games,pictures,documents) so in DOS when i type format C:, it formatted the D: because regular DOS only reckons FAT 32, so i accidently formatted it and lost my stuf i was so angry! So I want to be able to format a NTFS drive in DOS. Is there a different boot disk i use? I know NTFS has lots of advantages I wanna switch over...
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Aug 13, 2003, 12:14 PM
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You can use NTFSdos, not only will it allow dos to read NTFS drives, but its one of windows' biggest security holes.
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Aug 13, 2003, 12:25 PM
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DH's #1 Hustla and Pimp
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how so? If im in dos I'm not connected to the net. what security is there to worry about craig?
what other alternatives do I have, how do you guys get your drives formatted?
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Aug 13, 2003, 12:40 PM
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I spent some time and made a selfbooting slipstreamed windows 2000 cd. It has SP4 and DX9 already installed, and it can format all of my drives.
I'm talking about if someone else was to run NTFSdos on your machine, they don't need to enter passwords to gain access to anything.
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Aug 13, 2003, 12:42 PM
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DH's #1 Hustla and Pimp
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ohhhhh pfft thats fine wit me no one else uses it cept my bro we jus use my user account. and actually another question lol. For XP Pro how do I autologon my account? i forgot!
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Aug 13, 2003, 01:00 PM
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I always format with fat32 first then I convert it to NTFS
I always liked to format my drives first with fat32 but now I cannot do that but I always converted them to NTFS, but now I format the drives with my homebrew WinPE disk. I format them striaght to NTFS.
later
pete
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Aug 13, 2003, 01:01 PM
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DriverHeaven Granddaddy
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Quote:
Originally posted by BiGBrOWnPimpsta
ohhhhh pfft thats fine wit me no one else uses it cept my bro we jus use my user account. and actually another question lol. For XP Pro how do I autologon my account? i forgot!
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For autologon, use XP Powertoys Tweakui and activate the Logon setting for your account.
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Aug 13, 2003, 01:41 PM
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DH's #1 Hustla and Pimp
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ok thx dyre, so where can I get NTFSdos? tell me what other programs you guys use or simpler methods you go upon to format your NTFS drives
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Aug 13, 2003, 02:05 PM
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cant u just use google or somethen?  here NTFSDOS 3.0, not so difficult huh? 
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Aug 13, 2003, 02:05 PM
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DH Mafia Don
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There is an XP boot disk ya know...
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Aug 13, 2003, 02:07 PM
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DH's #1 Hustla and Pimp
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yea 6 disks
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Aug 13, 2003, 02:08 PM
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DH Mafia Don
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no, one floppy disk. It simply copies all boot files to the disk (NtLDR for one) and you can boot to NTFS DOS.
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Aug 13, 2003, 02:12 PM
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do u right click on the floppy driveand create boot disk if u do ive dont it never works
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Aug 13, 2003, 03:08 PM
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It's always worked for me. Are you sure your BIOS is set up to look on the floppy first, THEN HDD or CD-ROM?
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Aug 13, 2003, 06:37 PM
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yea! regular Windows 98/ME disks always work for me! it like starts lodaing but then I can only use a: prompt. any drive specification wont do crap. even for my friend this is the issue. thats why the XP boot disk is BS to me!
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Aug 14, 2003, 12:18 AM
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DH Mafia Don
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XP boot disk is fine. Your comp is BS. I boot with it fine and can access all drives, NTFS and otherwise.
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Aug 14, 2003, 08:15 AM
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DriverHeaven Granddaddy
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After the problem on my own computer this week, that resulted from disabling the RPC function, I attempted to reinstall XP Home over itself. It failed with a 'unable to create libraries' error. It would restart and try to start the Setup again...and fail again.....and again....and again.
I tried booting from my XP CD as I have done several times since the first of the year. It failed to boot due to NTLDR not found.
I finally had to reformat my HD using my Seagate CD, change the HD to FAT32, reinstall 98SE and then upgrade to XP.
Before doing this, I had tried some NTFS readers and nothing would let me access that affected HD. It became a lost cause attempting to do it.
I completed the cycle last evening by converting the HD back to NTFS once again.
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Aug 22, 2003, 08:24 PM
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I had 2 drives and one was FAT 32, and this drive contained my raw data (music,movies,games,pictures,documents) so in DOS when i type format C:, it formatted the D: because regular DOS only reckons FAT 32, so i accidently formatted it and lost my stuf i was so angry!
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Dude, I did the exact same thing. I was so freaking pissed. Finally figured out, XP will offer the format prompt during the install only if all drives are NTFS. Should have just disconnected the slave during intall.
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Aug 22, 2003, 11:53 PM
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let me try the boot disk again... i doubt itll work
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Aug 23, 2003, 01:33 AM
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I just created a boot disk for the first time tonight and updated the firmware to my cdrom drive and it worked. So I know you can at least boot to the A: drive in dos for bios and other dos updates.
Good Luck
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Aug 26, 2003, 11:59 AM
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is there a way to convert to NTFS by not formatting the whole drive? I remember yrs ago on Windows 98 i changed from fat16 to fat32 without formatting.
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Aug 27, 2003, 04:00 AM
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ello peeps, i have a lil problem, this morning i boot my pc, and it say some files are missing, cant start winxp, now i can copy this files from my laptop and then put them on my pc, but the hard disk is NTFS.... Now i tried the programs you guy's showed in this topic, but they are all read-only ntfs programs.. if you want to be able to write, you need pay like 299,- :s does any 1 know some other way to acces the ntfs drive, or does some one have some freeware program, or els some one can pm me with a working program? Greetz
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I already found a good working on, not really legal, but hey it works 
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Last edited by Saint_K; Aug 27, 2003 at 05:03 AM.
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Aug 27, 2003, 07:32 AM
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DH's #1 Hustla and Pimp
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read the post mentioned on page one of this thread... gives link for ntfsdos
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Aug 27, 2003, 08:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by BiGBrOWnPimpsta
is there a way to convert to NTFS by not formatting the whole drive? I remember yrs ago on Windows 98 i changed from fat16 to fat32 without formatting.
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C:\> CONVERT C: /fs:ntfs
Where C: is a name of the drive you want to convert.
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Aug 27, 2003, 11:19 AM
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DH's #1 Hustla and Pimp
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and do i do this in dos? do i gotta get ntfs dos to do this?
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Aug 27, 2003, 11:39 AM
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As far as I remember you just go to a command prompt....type in the convert command and it will do it on reboot....
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