ASUS G Series G2K-A1

milo2361 · Jul 14, 2008, 05:58 PM

hello - this is my first time posting and i was wondering if anyone could tell me how the asus G2k-a1 peforms? It looks pretty solid after looking at the specs on newegg. Newegg.com - ASUS G Series G2K-A1 NoteBook AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-64(2.20GHz) 17.0" Wide UXGA 2GB Memory 160GB HDD DVD Super Multi ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 - Laptops / Notebooks is the link.
if anyone has it can you give me some FPS readings on a few games? I sort of want it for a desktop replacement if i can, but the HP i bought and sent back next day didnt come close.
my desktop
amd athlon 64 4400+ 512mbx2 L2 cache, 2.2ghz
Asus 8n5x motherboard
ATI Radeon x1950pro 512mb ddr2
4gb ddr400 ram
120gb 7200rpm SATA 3.0 hdd
Windows XP professional

HP i sent back(dv9700t)
intel core 2 duo 2.5ghz, 6mb L2 cache
Nvidia Geforce 8600M GS 512mb ddr2
4gb DDR667 ddr2 ram
160gb 5400rpm SATA150 hdd
windows vista home premium 64bit

on call of duty4 (on my 3 year old desktop) i can average 60+FPS on nearly every part of the game
on the HP on the same settings as desktop(as well as in native resolution of hte laptop) i was lucky to get 15fps.

whats the deal? will this Asus come close?

thanks

Milo

BlueMak · Jul 15, 2008, 01:48 AM

The CPU is slower than the one in the HP.

The graphics card is about the same speed as the one in the HP.
It has less memory than the HP, and a worthless expense with the HD-DVD drive since it is a dead product now that BlueRay won.

I wouldn't get this ASUS laptop over the HP, it will probably be slower.

milo2361 · Jul 15, 2008, 07:59 AM

thanks for the help! would this one be a good idea? seems like a true desktop replacement!

Newegg.com - HP Pavilion HDX9494NR NoteBook Intel Core 2 Duo T8100(2.10GHz) 20.1" Wide SXGA+ 4GB Memory 320GB HDD 5400rpm Blu-ray Disc / Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS - Laptops / Notebooks

my onle issue with this is its vista. i hate vista lol. - id rather have XP because it uses much less system RAM and is alot smaller on the hard drive than vista. vista, to me, is pointless - - supposedly fixed everything that was wrong with XP. but i thought thats what windows updates did.

I'm not sure what to look for in a laptop - never really looked at them till just now, mostly because i kinda need one. I've always built my own desktops and it seems like anything i buy in a laptop is automatically gonna be slower than my 3 year old desktop- unless i want to blow $3000-5000 on something from alienware or Falcon Northwest or something.

I'd like something that i can do some decent gaming on, but also have the portability to take it to class for notes.... 20 inches seems a little big but i can buy a backpack.

***temeteus82*** · Jul 15, 2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by milo2361

thanks for the help! would this one be a good idea? seems like a true desktop replacement!

Newegg.com - HP Pavilion HDX9494NR NoteBook Intel Core 2 Duo T8100(2.10GHz) 20.1" Wide SXGA+ 4GB Memory 320GB HDD 5400rpm Blu-ray Disc / Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS - Laptops / Notebooks

my onle issue with this is its vista. i hate vista lol.

Well that laptop needs 64-bit OS in order to utilize all that RAM installed. So you need to get used to use Vista.

milo2361 · Jul 15, 2008, 08:07 AM

just curious, but why do i need 64 bit operating system for 4gb ram? got 4gb in my brothers computer on XP just fine. My friend spencer has an IBM lenovo thinkpad thats way better than my desktop - - hes running XP and 4gb ram.

***temeteus82*** · Jul 15, 2008, 08:52 AM

32-bit windows can use maximum of 4096 Mb of memory space. That means that windows will map the BIOS and GFX card's RAM before it will map the RAM on the computer so if you have 512Mb of RAM on GSX card and 2 Mb on BIOS chip then do the math. 4096-512-2=3582 so after all of those windows will map only 3582Mb of RAM. I've been using Vista x64 for year now and had zero issues with it. Actually I like Vista more than XP for some odd reason...

BlueMak · Jul 15, 2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by milo2361

thanks for the help! would this one be a good idea? seems like a true desktop replacement!

Newegg.com - HP Pavilion HDX9494NR NoteBook Intel Core 2 Duo T8100(2.10GHz) 20.1" Wide SXGA+ 4GB Memory 320GB HDD 5400rpm Blu-ray Disc / Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS - Laptops / Notebooks

my onle issue with this is its vista. i hate vista lol. - id rather have XP because it uses much less system RAM and is alot smaller on the hard drive than vista. vista, to me, is pointless - - supposedly fixed everything that was wrong with XP. but i thought thats what windows updates did.

I'm not sure what to look for in a laptop - never really looked at them till just now, mostly because i kinda need one. I've always built my own desktops and it seems like anything i buy in a laptop is automatically gonna be slower than my 3 year old desktop- unless i want to blow $3000-5000 on something from alienware or Falcon Northwest or something.

I'd like something that i can do some decent gaming on, but also have the portability to take it to class for notes.... 20 inches seems a little big but i can buy a backpack.

There is a good chance people will laugh at you or steal it from you if you take that thing in classes etc. Just too big. As a machine, it is great, I wish HP would sell them here or that I could buy from newegg, but for portability..no way. 15lbs...not good for carrying around in classes etc. I would get a smaller one, with say 15.4 or at the very most 17" if to carry it with me a lot.
The specs are fine, the size is the problem for your use.

As for Vista, new good machine with 4GB or RAM, you might as well install Vista64 or else it is a waste of RAM.
I don't have Vista, but tried it for a while and if I could, I would. Don't listen to all the negative propaganda.

milo2361 · Jul 15, 2008, 10:02 PM

can anyone reccomend a good 17 inch laptop for gaming under $2000?

20 is a little big and its 15lb... a 17 would be a much better fit - - but anything good anymore seems to cost $3000+

i wish i had the extra cash to buy an alienware or Falcon-NW or something

BlueMak · Jul 16, 2008, 12:56 AM

Check Sager site. Or the Toshiba G50 or x305. Or some Gateway models. You can get a fast cheap laptop in the USA, so don't worry.
Just make sure it has at least a Nvidia 9600GT, or 8800mGTX/GTS, or ATI HD3870 for graphics card.

CPU at least a dual core at 2.2+

RAM, over 2GBs, preferably 4GBs. (but you will need Vista 64 for that).

milo2361 · Jul 16, 2008, 08:17 AM

i saw the x305 on toshiba's site... only has a 2.0ghz processor but im sure it would be fine..... it says best buy exclusive at $1559 or something but when i go to best buys site i cant buy it?

this one looks pretty good - - but agian, no where to buy it... http://explore.toshiba.com/laptops/qosmio/F50/F55-Q5023

BlueMak · Jul 16, 2008, 09:51 AM

I think their release date is soon.
I can't suggest where to buy them in the USA for obvious reasons.

milo2361 · Jul 16, 2008, 12:39 PM

hopefully i can get one before august.... would the 2.0ghz processor in the x305 be good enough? or should i go for the 2.4 in the F55? x305 has DDR3 system memory at 1066mhz while the F55 has ddr2 memory at 667mhz.....

BlueMak · Jul 16, 2008, 01:15 PM

My belief (without any facts) is that any positive gains by the faster memory will be too small to matter at all.
I can see how it could matter to top of the top desktop PC, but not here.
I would get the faster CPU, but that's just me.
Of course, you could always get the one with the slower CPU and change it later.
When they are officialy released, you will probably be able to upgrade the CPU while buying it from the official site, at least that would make sense.

milo2361 · Jul 21, 2008, 02:59 PM

I was doing some more searching - - almost considered alienware for a minute... till i found this.... Gateway Official Site: Store - P-173X FX Edition, Notebooks, Product Details

$1,499 w/o extended warranty and no norton/office, $1,649.98 w/3year warranty

the only thing i dont like about it is - - VISTA. the tech guy said i could go ahead and try an XP downgrade - - warranty will still be in effect on everything except the OS. im pretty sure i found all of the XP drivers for the laptop except the graphics card for XP.... cant find ANY 8800M GTS XP drivers..... any suggestions?

***temeteus82*** · Jul 21, 2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by milo2361

the only thing i dont like about it is - - VISTA. the tech guy said i could go ahead and try an XP downgrade - - warranty will still be in effect on everything except the OS. im pretty sure i found all of the XP drivers for the laptop except the graphics card for XP.... cant find ANY 8800M GTS XP drivers..... any suggestions?

You could look this site : LaptopVideo2Go & NVIDIA Related News

milo2361 · Jul 21, 2008, 08:41 PM

i notice in my searches there are many 8800m GTX drivers for XP but nothing with 8800m GTS - - in fact, no drivers AT ALL for vista or XP....

whats up with that?

EDIT 1 : i used notebook check to compare 8800m GTX and 8800m GTS and the only difference is the X has 96 pipelines, the S has 64....

EDIT 2: I also searched NVIDIA drivers to see if i could get them directly.... the only card they have drivers for a (in the geforce m/go series) is the 8700m GT drivers..... what happened to all the other drivers for all the other m/go series?

procupine14 · Jul 22, 2008, 02:18 PM

I am going to just give you a heads up to reinforce what i know about laptops and carrying them to class.....GO SMALL!!! stay at 17" or under. I have my 15.4" dv6000t and it kills my shoulders by the end of the day with the addition of books etc.

if your campus is fairly large save your shoulders

Quote:

Originally Posted by milo2361

i notice in my searches there are many 8800m GTX drivers for XP but nothing with 8800m GTS - - in fact, no drivers AT ALL for vista or XP....

whats up with that?

EDIT 1 : i used notebook check to compare 8800m GTX and 8800m GTS and the only difference is the X has 96 pipelines, the S has 64....

EDIT 2: I also searched NVIDIA drivers to see if i could get them directly.... the only card they have drivers for a (in the geforce m/go series) is the 8700m GT drivers..... what happened to all the other drivers for all the other m/go series?

as for this^^
your laptop manufacturer provides them and driver updates for them....from what I have learned with laptop mobile GFX is that your laptop maker is the one that distributes the drivers and Nvidia has NOTHING to do with them

milo2361 · Jul 22, 2008, 06:23 PM

oh... laptop company distributes them.... that sucks because anything major now(besides customs like alienware or falcon-nw) are 100% vista and dont provide drivers for XP. as for size, i will live on a pretty big campus, but i figure im gonna have to get used to hauling stuff around - - USMC ROTC student! lol i think im gonna go with the gateway over an alienware.... just seems like good stuff for the money. great gfx card, lots of ram, and i finally found ALL of the drivers to backdate it to XP

the 20.1 inch HP HDX woulda been hella cool but 20 inches to haul around at 15lb would be overkill.... when they say its a desktop replacement, they aint joking.

BlueMak · Jul 23, 2008, 03:56 AM

I would avoid Alienware for two simple reasons.
Tons of negative comments on their support and they refusing to install Vista 64 saying there are not going to be drivers for it.
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milo2361 · Jul 23, 2008, 08:14 AM

you guys are a great help. pretty glad i asked about this stuff here. i'll probably be getting the Gateway P-173x FX because its definitely the best i can find for under $1800. $2000 was my max but i wanted to save as much as i could, and it looks like the ticket do do it!

Processor Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor 2 T7500 (2.20GHz, 800MHz, 4MB L2 Cache) Operating System Genuine Microsoft® Windows Vista® Ultimate (64-bit) SP1 Memory 4096MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2-2048MB modules) Hard Drive 200GB 7200rpm Serial ATA hard drive w/ 16MB Cache3 Optical Drive 8x Multi-Format Dual Layer DVDRW with DVD-RAM featuring Labelflash™ Technology4 Video NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800M GTS with 512MB of GDDR3 discrete video memory Chassis Intel® PM965 Chipset Display 17.0" WXGA+ Ultrabright TFT Active Matrix (1440 x 900 max. resolution) Web Camera Integrated 1.3 Megapixel Web Cam Wireless Network Integrated Realtek 802.11 b/g Wireless Networking
Audio High-Definition Audio- 2 Channel, Built-In speakers, embedded microphone, headphone/speaker jack, and microphone jacks

Battery Primary 9 Cell Lithium Ion battery (7800mAH) w/ 1 Yr. limited battery warranty7 Bluetooth Bluetooth® 2.0+EDR Color FX Design with Copper Core Accent Dimensions (System) 1.3"-1.70" (H) x 15.75" (W) x 11.75" (D)
Keyboard and Mouse Full-Size Keyboard, Synaptics Touchpad with Vertical Scroll and Dedicated Multimedia Panel Media Card Reader 5-in-1 media card reader (Memory Stick®, MemoryStick Pro®, MultiMediaCard™, Secure Digital™, xD-Picture Card) Memory Capacity Maximum 4GB Modem Integrated V.92 56K modem Network Integrated RealTek 10/100/1000 Ethernet AdapterWarranty 1 Year Basic (Tech Support - Parts - Factory Labor)7 Weight Starting at 9.2 pounds8