SP3 and your AiW - good or bad?

H3X4D3C1M4L

With the recent release of SP3 I decided to fire up my X800XT AiW again. So far the experience has been totally positive.... a stock SP3 with the software that came on my CD yielded a flawless MMC experience... it all works. Conversely using the software on ATI/AMD's site yielded a "can't find the tuner" message (when I know that the tuner driver is installed).

Has anyone else tried their AiW on SP3? I'm interested to hear experiences good and bad.

Judas

that's good news...

but i've been without a AIW for about 4 months now since i basically gave up..

however i was hoping SP1 for vista and AIW support in windows supplied MMC would work..... however no news thus far....

H3X4D3C1M4L

I don't think it will actually work with the built in Multimedia Center in Vista.

I was however looking for XP SP3 feedback

Melissa2008B

Hi folks,

I'm new to this board and don't know how to find the first posts of this thread, but a few days ago, I installed SP3 and I've had an All In Wonder 128 Pro for several years, and since installing SP3 I'm getting weird computer noises impinging on the audio. Is there any fix for this?

Judas

unfortuneately i'm not sure what's going on there for you melissa..

however i just received a older computer containing a radeon 7500 aiw.

and i just installed xp sp3 and i must say, suddenly things are working properly for the people that had this machine.... they said ever since Sp1, the machines AIW functions stopped working well.

currently using the 6.11 drivers

with the older MMC

Melissa2008B

Argh, I just found out what it was. I ALSO installed a new DVD burner ( no problem ) and a USB2 port PCI card. Guess where that went. RIGHT NEXT to the AIW! Argh!

Guess it's causing RFI. Gotta move it...

H3X4D3C1M4L

I don't think its RFI... you're probably looking at a DMA resource allocation issue.

nbarzgar

Hi there,

am running Windows XP Pro SP2 with the AiW X800GT (AGP; Format:PAL) and tried SP3, but I had problems with any driver I tried (tuner-problems mostly, if I remember correctly, about 3 months ago...*) and ended up re-installing Windows.
I decided not to try and use SP3 at all.

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* either tuner not found or tuning impossible...

H3X4D3C1M4L

So far that's the first time I've ever heard of that! Thanks for the feedback

G00k

It makes me want to set fire to my computer room.

I have a AIW 9600 that had been working fine for a couple years. I use Pinacle 9 to capture and edit from tape, and watch TV while doing other things on my PC. Never tried using it as a recorder from cable.

Anyway, I tried to bring the TV app up to watch whilst doing something else, and there's no video. Sound's okay, but black screen. If I click on the channel surf button, I get a second of video displayed before it jumps into the thumbnails. (the thumbnails display).

I D/L'ed the Catalyst drivers and MMC packages, removed all the old stuff, rebooted and began to load the new stuff - no joy. Went to the website, looked at the knowledge base (looks like remmove / reinstall is the bulk of their advice.)

I opened a ticket, got told to do it again. asked for other ideaS, and they gave me a different apge of downloads that look like older stuff. Installed that - hey, it worked! Shutdown for the night. The next morning, I powered up - XP finds new hardware; the upshot?: TV doesn't work (no picture). Tried removal / reinstall again - works for a while, the next day it doesn't. Asked if SP3 had known issues with the AIW - the half answer: it could be, but they didn't recommend backing it out. I backed it out anyway - removed/ reinstalled new version: no joy. Put back the older version - it's working for now. Oh, and the install programs on the newer group of drivers, etc, seem to blow up - eg: "mmccfg.exe encountered a problem and had to be shut down." It's sucking bad now.

Now it makes me wonder- is there an alternative to some of the ATI software? I thought I saw something out in this group, but can't find it again. It would probably be best to go that route since ATI seems to be opaque.

Whatdya think?

G00k

H3X4D3C1M4L

Sounds like SP3 hasn't changed much. People still get random issues everywhere you go.

The Elf Himself

Well, H3X4D3C1M4L, I too own an ATI X800 XT AIW, (mines an AGP) and although this is my first post here at Driver Heaven, I have been an avid reader of your posts for some time now.

I guess I was one of the Blessed... after an initial battle to get the card running properly way back in 2005 when I built this machine up until about July of '08 I enjoyed almost perfect performance from my AIW ... Then one day, w/o warning I started to get capture stuttering and freezing and audio problems and all the rest of the stuff so typical to the postings I've read here ... I went through the whole mill trying to get the card to capture again, trying every combination of ATI drivers I was aware of at the time...hour upon hour of frustration, confusion, desperation, etc, ad nauseum... you know the drill...

Ultimately this lead me to nuke the main drive from space and perform a ground up installation w/ XP Pro... SP3 had just arrived so rather than endure all those security patch & hotfix downloads from MS, I opted to just use the new service pack... I installed all the ATI drivers & MMC that came with the card on it's CD and bingo! Everything tested just fine... Yay!

But I was greedy... In the past, I had successfully updated the ATI CD software a couple of times and wanted things to be back to EXACTLY what I had grown accustomed to, mainly there was an option for 5.1 audio that I had gotten fond of ... so I then installed the latest combination of drivers that was working for me before the still-unexplained capture loss... Catalyst 6.2, MMC 9.16, RW 3.03 & Hydravision 3.25 ... Humm, in retrospect, I shoulda left well enough alone, huh?...

Well, a mysterious & new (well new to me at the time anyway..) problem appeared... the capture now refuses to work after just about 90 seconds of perfect running....plus a bunch of the problems I now know are typical to MMC 9.16

Again, I tried everything and went online looking for answers daily, which eventually lead me to Driver Heaven and this post...

In the process, I have learned about NSP drivers, Omega drivers, Graphedit, VirtualDub & VirtualVCR, ATITools, HD unlocking and a few other things... I'm still learning something new about this issue almost every day... I may eventually cave in and perform another ritual cleansing of my drive and go back to the plain ol' CD setup and finish archiving the rest of my videotape, but not until I win ...

And I'm close to a win... On my last try, I got all the NSP driver stuff in right except for the TV Capture and now the TV functions beautifully with far better resolution that ever before, and the only problem left to solve is tied directly to that WDM TV Capture Driver , which is refusing to install correctly...

I don't know exactly which thread here I should go to ...I'd welcome some help there... but I want current info , which is why I landed with you... recent post date!

ATI / AMD, if you read this, know that you need to not only correct this foolishness once and for all by issuing a Catalyst driver package / MMC 10 for ALL PCI & AGP AIW owners, but also apoligize in writing to every one of your thus-far loyal customers.

Anyway, H3X4D3C1M4L, your thoughts??

H3X4D3C1M4L

Well... its going to come down to a lesson in futility. While I'm sure there is some solution or another to your problem, you might spend the rest of all time trying to find it rather than just swallowing your pride and going back to what worked