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May 8, 2008, 02:15 PM
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Realtek Dolby Digital Live support on non-DDL chips
The Realtek chip ALC888S appears to have the exact same pin outs as the ALC888DD. This indicates that to enable DDL on non DDL chips would require a software mod of the audio drivers.
I was wondering if anyone was aware of any projects on this?
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May 9, 2008, 09:28 AM
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this would be very very cool
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May 10, 2008, 11:30 AM
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Interesting thing! I tried RedocneXk but didn't get it working. On my mainboard is a Realtek ALC888 but not with the DDL/DTS Connect functions. So if this driver thing is going to make DDL work for my simple onboard, it's just awesome. Saves me some money I would have to spend on a new soundcard with DDL like the Theatron Agrippa.
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May 12, 2008, 03:07 PM
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I did a load of googling on this subject and didn't find if anyone ever tried to hack the drivers to enable DDL & DTS Connect. It has to be possible but I don't have any hacking skills. Realtek only uses one driver for all their HD Audio codecs, so it has to be the device or motherboard ID that enables the DDL. I guess changing the drivers is illegal but nevertheless if Realtek offered a software add on to unlock DDL, I would buy it.
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May 13, 2008, 01:13 PM
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Yes, I would love to see it done too, but I also have minimal coding/hacking skills.
New realtek HD drivers are out today: v1.92
Realtek
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May 13, 2008, 05:30 PM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
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the chips may have the same pinout, but if the DDL engine is hardware, then you're out of luck
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May 14, 2008, 10:07 AM
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but what is the actual hardware is present within the chip.. but is disabled by default..
it would be pretty amazing if a driver inf changeup were to activate such features..
perhaps some of the chips have a faulty ddl, and some other don't...
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May 14, 2008, 11:04 AM
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DDL and DTS connect are both listed under the "software features" section of the product info here:
Realtek
and here:
http://realtek.info/pdf/ALC888_1-0.pdf
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May 14, 2008, 11:26 AM
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Here is the datasheet we need:
ftp://218.210.127.132/pc/audio/ALC88...aSheet_1.2.pdf
page 15 shows the pin out from a regular ALC888S
page 16 shows the pin out from a ALC888DD
they are exactly the same.
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May 21, 2008, 01:20 AM
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Anyone notice the disclaimer that realtek put up on their site a few weeks back:
"Audio drivers available for download from the Realtek website are general drivers for our audio ICs, and may not offer the customizations made by your system/motherboard manufacturer. To be sure you obtain the full features/customizations provided in your original audio product, please download the latest drivers from your system/motherboard manufacturer's website."
With this in mind, I found a mobo that supports DTS connect and DDL with the realtek 888D chip:
GIGABYTE - Support - Motherboard - Driver - GA-M59SLI-S5 (rev. 1.0)
Interestingly, the drivers are nearly double the size of the drivers straight from realtek when extracted.
I tried installing them, (hoping for an easy solution), but I did not see any added features.
Perhaps someone else might take a look and see how to get these extra features to install from the above linked drivers (v1.87).
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May 22, 2008, 04:45 PM
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I tried the same thing as you Freedomfighter and with the same result. I gave up on this. I bought a Club3d Theatron Agrippa which has DTS Connect and DDLive. It's well worth the money. I have every sound in DTS on my home cinema. Soundquality on the analog outs are also way better than the Realtek HD or Audigy 4 that I used before. The soundcard is also sold as Auzentech X-plosion I believe.
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May 22, 2008, 06:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreedomFighter
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pinouts mean nothing if the 888s chip has no dolby digital engine
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Jun 3, 2008, 05:18 PM
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bump for a worthy cause
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Jun 20, 2008, 11:05 PM
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has anyone looked further into this?
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Jul 29, 2008, 05:57 AM
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signed up to these forums as I'm also interested in this. Is there anyway of getting an answer either way as to whether this is possible or not?
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Jul 31, 2008, 01:11 PM
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It would be a great development, alas, I know of no one thus far who has taken the reigns.
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