3541 bug reports

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Apr 4, 2008, 06:24 PM

please post your 3541 bug reports here
pls review 'known issues' first!

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previous bug reports:
3540 bug reports
3539 bug reports
3538m bug report
3538l bug reports
3538k bug reports
3538j bug reports
3538i bug reports

please note that any version earlier than 3541 is no longer supported!

kammajaega · Apr 5, 2008, 05:14 PM

Hi,

I've installed kx driver 3541 in a clean win XP Pro install.
When installing the driver I'm used to have three dialog pop ups, which ask me whether to install:

1. driver for the soundcard
2. driver for the gameport
3. vst plugin

second step is missing.

now I have an unkown device in windows device management.

why?

kind regards

kammajaega · Apr 5, 2008, 05:28 PM

Hi,

here is the gameport driver *.inf

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greetz

mkk · Apr 5, 2008, 05:33 PM

kammajaega, I don't know but I've noticed that Creative no longer supports the game port due to some stability issue at least for some cards under Vista. I'd just guess that maybe Eugene chose the same path. I don't have a page to show but I read about it in Creatives notes on an earlier driver.

BuzzT · Apr 5, 2008, 05:50 PM

E. has removed the inf file since version 3540. You can find the notice about in the release notes: "Removed joystick INF file, since it did not work anyway".

Legend102 · Apr 6, 2008, 07:14 AM

guys....the link dont work..........."http server reply error"

what the..........

HELP

Russ · Apr 6, 2008, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend102

guys....the link dont work..........."http server reply error"

what the..........

HELP

The link works fine for me (checked with Firefox and IE6)

Legend102 · Apr 6, 2008, 08:58 AM

i dont know, but i've already tried many times.....

with different browser.....

if anybody mirroring it, will greatly appreciated.....

Russ · Apr 6, 2008, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend102

i dont know, but i've already tried many times.....

with different browser.....

if anybody mirroring it, will greatly appreciated.....

Which link is the one giving you problems (i.e. the link is to the main site, where you have to follow a few links to get the file)? Try this one.

Lemonzest · Apr 6, 2008, 03:01 PM

OpenAL Games using "Generic Hardware" Path still crackling, almost like a buffer under run.

Legend102 · Apr 6, 2008, 11:20 PM

well....its done now....thanks guys.......time to try it

dxg · Apr 7, 2008, 07:39 AM

I have no wave 0/1 output under vista, wheras it works fine in XP.

Tested with 3541 + Vista32 SP1 and 3541 + XP SP2, Audigy 2 ZS.

Russ · Apr 7, 2008, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxg

I have no wave 0/1 output under vista, wheras it works fine in XP.

Tested with 3541 + Vista32 SP1 and 3541 + XP SP2, Audigy 2 ZS.

no sound coming out from fxbus 0/1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

there's additional issue with FXBus 0/1 on Vista:
Vista -never- allocates stereo output for 'Wave 0/1', and in this case it is always routed to 4/5, 6/7, 8/9 FXBuses... this cannot be fixed at the moment without some compatibility issues...

fromcat2me · Apr 7, 2008, 08:52 PM

3+ GB ram on vista with an audigy still doesn't work.
creative's drivers work fine

dxg · Apr 7, 2008, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fromcat2me

3+ GB ram on vista with an audigy still doesn't work.
creative's drivers work fine

That's intresting. I use to have the 3GB+ issue, but for me it's been fixed since 3540. Hm :-\
What sort of hardware are you using, and which version of vista? Perhaps that'll help figure out why.

I've got a 965P based motherboard + core2duo, and vista SP1 as above. For previous ( <3540 ) versions I tested with Vista gold.

fromcat2me · Apr 8, 2008, 12:00 AM

this is the copy paste from the about dialog

----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Apr 5 2008 03:04:18
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3541 - debug
DB Name:LiveBay2
SB0090 10k2 [dce0]
PCI Information:
Device: 41102 Subsys: 511102 ChipRev: 3
Card is '10k2'
Card has MPU device
Card model is '5.1'
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: TriTech TR A5/CT1297 TAT
3D Extension: No 3D Stereo Enhancement
Codec is 1.0 compliant
Capabilities[0] :
DAC resolutions : -16-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit-
Ext Capabilities [0]:
Port: dce0 Irq: 0x4(4)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 6 0 Service Pack 1; 2 6 0 Service Pack 1; 156 148]

vista 32, sp1, audigy, 4 GB ram

when i do a speaker test in the kx mixer it pops up a dialog that says
"Failed to create sound"
thats all. if i do a speaker test in the video sound control panel its all clicky noise

TravelRec. · Apr 8, 2008, 01:33 AM

On A2ZSNB SB0530 the Mic/Line Selector in kX-Mixer still behaves reversed: on MIC the LINE input is active and vice versa.

rolba · Apr 8, 2008, 03:22 PM

SB0240 + front panel - after instalation, and every reboot Windows is looking for drivers for "pci input device". By the way I had no problems douring using previous drivers version - 3539.

TravelRec. · Apr 9, 2008, 01:48 AM

The pci input device is the joystick port, use an old joystick port driver from an older kX-package and install it, then the message should go away.

alpinemobile · Apr 9, 2008, 10:24 AM

vista 32bit + 4gb ram still makes weird noises.
i have no problems with creative drivers.
also as you probably already know, if i remove 2gb everything is fine.

my config: q6600, intel P35, 4gb ram, 8800gts, audigy gamer, BT878 tuner, SATA hdds&dvdrw

dxg · Apr 9, 2008, 10:36 AM

Ok, so the reason my sound was working is that the default output in multimedia properties is 'Wave Out HQ' which works fine, except for non functional volume controls.

If I change the default device to 'Master Mixer' (is this equivalent to 'Wave 0/1' in XP?), then sound does not work. Get weird random sounds.

I tried the FX Bus 4/5 to top of xrouting trick, but all I get is full volume noise (whatever is in the buffer looping). Also get oddities if I make 4/5 etc default.

Am I doing something wrong, or is there a problem with the driver?

Screenshot:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/arek1/stuff/kxss.png

EDIT: Turns out the HQ output setting is actually all I really need. The main windows volume control is the only one that affects the L/R analog outs, which is fine. My speaker setup is 2.1, so using my new knowledge (thanks to people in DSP forum for HQ outs explanation) I setup a basic EQ for the LFE out.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/arek1/stuff/kxss2.png

Yay! I can use vista again

(4GB ram upgrade stopped me with 3539)

PS: Whatever Q does, it makes the subwoofer sound incredibly crap, or even delayed, when set to a high value..

BELOW:
alpinemobile: sorry, edited post... didnt realise someone had quoted me, browser had cached the page. I guess its not just me with the problem then, tho perhaps we shouldnt be setting master mixer as default? confused.

Russ: fun thing is the level does not change if I turn it down in winamp. However it drops to ~-114 if i close winamp altogether. The level is quasi random, each time I start winamp (once I had the right channel at -114, and left +6).

alpinemobile · Apr 9, 2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxg

If I change the default device to 'Master Mixer' as is default in XP, then sound does not work.

If I do that, at first, I also have no sound. But if I press play repeatedly (random number of clicks) in the audio player, after a while it starts making noise again.

Russ · Apr 9, 2008, 11:27 AM

@dxg
If you are going to connect FxBus 4/5 to the top of xrouting, you should also disconnect where 4/5 normally connects to (5th/6th pins of xrouting).

The audio looks a little hot coming out of Fxbus 4/5 (especially the right channel)... I am not sure what that is about, but there is a possibility of clipping.

There may still be some other issues with the windows mixer, as I noticed that if I set 4/5 as default, I got some odd results (no audio or audio is mono-only (i.e. only one channel), until I played around with the wave slider). It only happened the first time, so I do not have much details, but try playing with the wave slider in both Windows mixer (for 4/5) and kxmixer.

As for WaveHQ, there is an option under kX settings (Driver compatibility) for 'P16v volumes follow 10k2 epilog' which may give you control over volume (I do not have Vista nor a 10k2 card, so I cannot test any of this myself).

alpinemobile · Apr 9, 2008, 12:41 PM

@dxg
That means that you've solved the 4gb issue?

summoner · Apr 9, 2008, 01:28 PM

Hey Guys,

I have a problem with SPDI/F on a win2k3 installation - 3538 worked in the past, and so do the creative drivers.

1. I get the VU Meter showing sounds, so does the analog out.
2. no kind of sound through SPDIF, though receiver shows it's getting ditial input.
3. Creative drivers only gave me 2.0 audio spdif - but wouldn't pass AC3..

Any help?

Thx,
Ariel

Attached from about window:
----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Apr 5 2008 03:04:18
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3541 - debug
DB Name:LiveBay1
SB0092 10k2 [df80]
PCI Information:
Device: 41102 Subsys: 531102 ChipRev: 3
Card is '10k2'
Card has MPU device
Card model is '5.1'
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: TriTech TR A5/CT1297 TAT
3D Extension: No 3D Stereo Enhancement
Codec is 1.0 compliant
Capabilities[0] :
DAC resolutions : -16-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit-
Ext Capabilities [0]:
Port: df80 Irq: 0x9(9)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 2 Service Pack 2; 2 5 2 Service Pack 2; 156 148]

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Apr 9, 2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TravelRec.

On A2ZSNB SB0530 the Mic/Line Selector in kX-Mixer still behaves reversed: on MIC the LINE input is active and vice versa.

confirmed : ) (finaly)
yep, a misprint in the code...
fixed

E.

dxg · Apr 9, 2008, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpinemobile

@dxg
That means that you've solved the 4gb issue?

Yes. With the HQ outs as default, it works.

Also:
Spotted a small UI bug: If I change the DSP window size to small, the close button disappears. If I move the mouse over where it should be, it reappears. Just looks like it doesn't get drawn, or something is drawn on top of it..
Also note the repeating "Always On Top".

Screenshot as usual: