Failed Reverb and Chorus

supertwain · Sep 3, 2007, 11:42 AM

I am using VST Synth (TTS) in Cakewalk, and reverb and chorus work, but if use Ksynth with loaded sondfont (SGM-180 or PC), sliding reverb and chorus, in these midi tracks it doesn't effect. I use SBLIve with kx driver, Sonar4. I've set in kx router "send amounts to C and D", but it doesn't work. What I must do?

Maddogg6 · Sep 4, 2007, 09:53 AM

did you make a custom DSP? - did you connect the FXBuss lines for SEND C&D to reverb?

supertwain · Sep 5, 2007, 11:26 AM

How I must make custom DSP?. I have it by default. I've read thread about it, there is such instruction
"Make sure your In0Level and and In1Level are set to 0, and that FxBus(0/1) is connected to In0(L/R) and FxBus(2/3) is connected to In1(L/R). Also, FxBus13 should be connected to mono_in1, and FxBus14 to mono_in2. "
I have exactly this. Besides I have direct connections - FXBUS0/1 to Wave L/ R, and 2/ 3 - to Synth L/ R

Maddogg6 · Sep 6, 2007, 03:27 PM

the 'send' level for Reaverb and Chorus - coming out of FXBuss 13 & 14 - is a function of:
1) Soundfont send amount (pre-programmed in SF2 file)
2) kX Router Send Levels.
3) MIDI CC#91 & CC#93 - MIDI message typical - but *not always* present in *all* MIDI files.

So - as long as the Soundfont is programmed with at least 5% send ammount, the SEND amount for the FXBuss line (kx Router) is at least 50%, FXMIX is at least 50% - and MIDI CC#91 and CC#93 of at least 65 - you should hear the effects.
If not - adjust each one Starting with MIDI CC#91/32 - then adjust Send Amount (kx Router)

supertwain · Sep 7, 2007, 10:36 AM

I've made all levels to 50 (and I tried 100 too)
FXMIX2 propertiwes - all in0/5 levels 50, FX1/2 - 50, kxrouter synth1/2 send amounts C/D 50. No effect. Must I change connections (lines) in kxDSP?

Maddogg6 · Sep 8, 2007, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supertwain

I've made all levels to 50 (and I tried 100 too)
FXMIX2 propertiwes - all in0/5 levels 50, FX1/2 - 50, kxrouter synth1/2 send amounts C/D 50. No effect. Must I change connections (lines) in kxDSP?

No, with default DSP configuration - reverb and chorus should work.

You checked the soundfont - or otherwise *know* it is also programmed for reverb and/or chorus send. ??

Will wave XX playback get affected by the effects?

octave · Sep 8, 2007, 02:04 PM

Hello

I have just been searching a bit to refresh my memory of how to handle per-channel reverb with kX. I attach three links to interesting threads below.

First, though, I'd like to say that NOT changing the DSP setup is MUCH MORE complicated endeavor than making one's own simple setup.

It might also be possible to think there's no reverb, because by default the reverb is very weak.

Also, there's an easy solution of just streaming all MIDI through a reverb effect (Reverb R is the best) in the DSP. (Best to use "send" function of the MX-6 mixer. The plug-ins have to be downloaded in the UFX and ProFX packages respectively, I think, to get the new versions.) It is also possible (though probably more inconvenient) to "wire" some individual channels to reverb(s) in the DSP.

The threads:

MIDI reverb/chorus and default DSP setup problem
www.driverheaven.net/effects-dsp/71491-midi-reverb-chorus-default-dsp-setup-problem.html

Reverb lite is too lite
www.driverheaven.net/effects-dsp/42416-reverb-lite-too-lite.html

Controlling Reverb&Chorus via Midi messages 91&93. How?
www.driverheaven.net/effects-dsp/92639-controlling-reverb-chorus-via-midi-messages-91-93-how.html