Another Shooting...Another Death: At CNN Headquarters

Dyre Straits · Apr 3, 2007, 03:02 PM

This just came up on the 'Net a few moments ago. Right here in Atlanta at the CNN Headquarters.

Domestic dispute erupts in gunfire...one person dead.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cnn_shooting

**Vikingod** · Apr 3, 2007, 03:07 PM

I've not yet had an argument, or met a woman (including my wife), that is worth committing something like this over. Are we so pathetic that a 'domestic' dispute is worth spending the rest of your life in jail and taking someone's life over. These insane saps must have so little to live for that this seems like a viable way out. It is totally inexcusable, it just makes me sick.

cozumel · Apr 3, 2007, 04:12 PM

Another reason to remove the right to bear [fire]arms.

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Apr 3, 2007, 04:17 PM

Wow. Somehow, I wish we humans were able to control our emotions better. Freedom of will seems to be a bit risky at times. Very sad indeed.

Sandok · Apr 3, 2007, 04:28 PM

I swear... Gun crimes in the US are unacceptable, especially when over "domestic" disputes!

BlueMak · Apr 3, 2007, 04:34 PM

I blame the parents.

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Apr 3, 2007, 04:56 PM

It's not the guns, it's the people. They can kill just as easily, and do, with knives, baseball bats and other items that can cause blunt force trauma.

Kane killed Abel way back before there were guns and video games and television and movies were around to blame, after all.

>GSXR<mrbusa · Apr 3, 2007, 05:15 PM

Lying, cheating, scamming, manipulative women need to be put down once in awhile.

Dyre Straits · Apr 3, 2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by >GSXR<mrbusa

Lying, cheating, scamming, manipulative women need to be put down once in awhile.

What??? Are you serious?

What about all the MEN who cheat??? lie??? manipulate??? spend money on 'extracurricular activity' while letting their families do without???

Whatever you're on, I hope it wears off soon.

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Apr 3, 2007, 05:55 PM

Social Darwinism.

BlueMak · Apr 3, 2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

What??? Are you serious?

What about all the MEN who cheat??? lie??? manipulate??? spend money on 'extracurricular activity' while letting their families do without???

Whatever you're on, I hope it wears off soon.

Dude, don't try to reason with mrbusa. He hates women.

GutterPunk · Apr 3, 2007, 06:27 PM

prolly a bad experience

seriously these crimes are getting old. I hate big cities for that reason. You see it less in the smaller communities where people risk reputation.

Calinerti · Apr 3, 2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeBoyz

It's not the guns, it's the people. They can kill just as easily, and do, with knives, baseball bats and other items that can cause blunt force trauma.

Kane killed Abel way back before there were guns and video games and television and movies were around to blame, after all.

Ah, but with a knife or a bat, you have to see the initial blow or stab, watch the blood flow, look into your victim's shocked eyes, and THEN strike again, and again until the job is done. With a gun its different.... A moments rage, thats all it takes. A lot of responsibility to put in the hands of an emotional lifeform.

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Apr 3, 2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Calinerti

Ah, but with a knife or a bat, you have to see the initial blow or stab, watch the blood flow, look into your victim's shocked eyes, and THEN strike again, and again until the job is done. With a gun its different.... A moments rage, thats all it takes. A lot of responsibility to put in the hands of an emotional lifeform.

I dunno man, 36 stab wounds made by a letter opener - that kinda stuff does seem to happen from time to time.

If anything, it may seem to initiate a "blood rage" that brings an even more animal component to the surface.

Blech. I think I'll skip having Medium Rare steak tonight. Doh!

Calinerti · Apr 3, 2007, 07:04 PM

The point I was making is that the ability for an individual to stab another 36 times with a letter opener is certainly more scarce than the ability for one to pull a trigger in a flash of rage and anger. I suppose an anti-gun post really. I dont own one and if nobody did, then things like this wouldnt happen. I dont really subscribe to the whole "guns dont kill people, people kill people" idea.

>GSXR<mrbusa · Apr 3, 2007, 07:09 PM

All women really want to be men.

OmegaRED · Apr 3, 2007, 08:50 PM

Men shouldn't be allowed to carry firearms; that would prevent most homicides.

MiDri · Apr 3, 2007, 09:10 PM

As I've always said, Guns don't kill people -- men who come home early do.

RoyBatty · Apr 4, 2007, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DudeBoyz

Wow. Somehow, I wish we humans were able to control our emotions better. Freedom of will seems to be a bit risky at times. Very sad indeed.

This reminded me of Equilibrium, that would be a solution too...

BlueMak · Apr 4, 2007, 05:13 AM

Till someone forgets to take a dosage.

Tinkerhell · Apr 4, 2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cozumel

Another reason to remove the right to bear [fire]arms.

Good Lord.
All I can say is that I hope you don't live in the US & if you do I hope you don't vote.

If more people were responsible citizens, as was intended and expected by those that founded this country, (ie meaning that everyone owned and knew how to properly use a firearm) then this sort of occurence would be far fewer. If the woman that had this happened to her had been armed she might still be alive. If the two main, cited, witnesses had been armed the woman might be alive. The same thing is true in the post that Gemini made - had that poor woman at the school armed herself she might be breathing now. She thought she had done what she should - she had a restraining order, the authorities knew about the guy that did it, her friends knew - she sent them all pics of the guy - the only thing she didn't do was make sure she could take care of herself if the nut showed up at her doorstep with a gun/knife/bat/pair of fists. Now she's dead.

I'm sorry, unless you have a magic wand & can wave it & make every gun in the world disappear then "banning guns" does NOTHING except remove the possiblity of law abiding men & women of protecting themselves & others from non law abiding people. Not to mention that without the right to keep & bear a citizenry has zero chance of protecting itself from an opressive government.

I feel sorry for anyone that doesn't believe that everyone should have guns because that's not the world we live in & it never will be. But don't worry because we can (in the USA) all have guns (ok, mostly - insane & felons can't) and I do and I am responsible enough so that if I ever see someone dragging you by the hair through a building, beating the shit out of you, trying to mug you in an alley, or steal your child I'll step up & do what I have to to help. I pray I never have to, but rest assured I will.

Maddogg6 · Apr 4, 2007, 12:15 PM

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I dont really subscribe to the whole "guns dont kill people, people kill people" idea.

really - because man has killed man long before firearms were invented.

Ask prison guards if its possible... they'll tell you pretty much anything can be turned into a deadly weapon.

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If more people were responsible citizens, as was intended and expected by those that founded this country, (ie meaning that everyone owned and knew how to properly use a firearm) then this sort of occurence would be far fewer.

yup - pretty simple concept - if the other person thinks you can defend yourself - they will likely think twice before acting on their impulse. Imo - theres no other way for prevention now that the 'cats out of the bag'. But thats a topic more appropriate for the debate forum....

It is a shame people hold so little regard for others tho...

e!i · Apr 4, 2007, 12:22 PM

People are crazy, give them opportunitys to to use firesticks, well hell baby, there gunna shoot someone.

Don't allow people to own guns, ffs.

***temeteus82*** · Apr 4, 2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Maddogg6

Ask prison guards if its possible... they'll tell you pretty much anything can be turned into a deadly weapon.

Yeah! Mythbusters made paper crossbow and it did better than normal crossbow. And they made it lethal ...

Maddogg6 · Apr 4, 2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by e!i

Don't allow people to own guns, ffs.

or anything that can be sharpened - or that can be injected intravenously - or set on fire - or run them over - or cause blunt force trauma - like a fist/elbow/knee/stick/bat/wrench........
Ran out of interest before ideas to