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Originally Posted by SFOSOK
In answer to your first question, attacking the person instead of the idea just shows how little you can support your claims that follow. I am not bored but I enjoy writing, I am not trying to enforce my opinion on you but instead I am stating mine.
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I know mate
But again, what I mean is that you've stated this many times before... Many many many times
And twas not a personal attack... Just a statement.
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Dumbing down what I have said with things like "This thread is pointless" and generalizing my overall idea into "Yep, science is a religion, they are like us!!!!" is not an effective means of defending your point or opinion.
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Again, no need to dumb it down since we've already fought this out...
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Its not that I don't want to believe your point or consider it but it becomes hard to think about your position when you don't bring up any relevant points towards the topic and cite a TV show as proof of your belief.
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A TV show because images > words. And you know me man, as I said, we've done this before so ya...
No need to bring anything I've already brought in the previous threads.
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There is only one thing I am offering in this thread and that is to keep an open mind towards religion and pretty much everything else in the world, if not just to further your knowledge but to understand Science requires as much faith if not more than other institutions of religion.
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An open mind to religion why? I mean, I'm not actively hunting down believers and forcing them to be atheist or anything? I don't throw jesus juice or burn their churches? I accept them for who they are but voilą.
As for the part that science requires faith, ONLY and I repeat ONLY religious people say this. Why try and compare both? My dad is a biochemist and he doesn't have "faith" in his job and I don't have "faith" in his job. I try and understand what he does and rationally and factually study it. Tis not "I take your word for it" so it must be true. All science is based on the proof of a theory and on fact.
Another example, H20. I've never seen hydrogen at an atomic level, neither have I seen oxygen at that level. Yet, I don't believe in it because somebody says it's like that. I believe it because I studied the subject and I understand the proof behind it.
It's conclusive.
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But let me get this right, this is your arguement or your opinion on the matter:
Science is right and absolutely right because it is worldly accepted as a fact and institutionalized where as religion is wrong and absolutely wrong because it requires a blind faith in nothing.
If that is what you believe then I'm afraid I have to disagree with you. Even rational judgement or fact is not truth.
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Well wait, what does reilgion require? A christian told me faith? What else? You don't need to know how to read... No need to understand biology or anything... You listen to somebody read and preach the bible and that's it....
As f or science being right, that's bull... It's not always right, it's just the more probable explanation for many things. Evolution, space, life, etc among other more typical things like what water is, oxygen, ozone and all.
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If you close you mind to other religion it would be the same as not listening to someone who is black because they are black, not listening to someone just because you disagree with their opinion, or anything else of that nature.
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I don't close my mind... I've lived in a religous country and people have told me I should step into the light and blablabla. I just don't find it convincing. I don't blatently say, "No I don't wanna hear what you have to say". I've
hearda million times and I don't understand how in the name of all that is HOLY a hell exists somewhere, a soul exists, heaven, jesus juice, moses, resurrection etc. Nobody can proove it to me except by saying,
It's in the bible. That's not proof.
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To accept your belief as absolute fact hinders mental and spiritual growth and understanding
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That's religion in it's best description... Muslims nowadays or christians in america (morgans for example) would be perfect with that description.