Hillary makes it official

Dowaco

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070120/...clinton2008_10

Possibly the most polarizing politician to ever run for US president. Many love her, many hate her with a passion.

My reasons not to vote for H. Clinton:

Never held office before carpetbagging for senate in New York, a state she never lived in, by using her name recognition as First Lady.
Caused a fiasco in the health and pharmaceutical industry by proposing unworkable socialistic solutions.
Flip flopped on the Iraq war.
Obvious wrongdoing in the Whitewater scandal was covered up by mysterious deaths.
The cattle futures scam.
Firing of the White House Travel Dept. was done in a despicable way.
Lied about the "vast right wing conspiracy" in defending Bill while knowing he was a philandering horndog.
There's more but I will stop there.

This is a corrupt power hungry woman with no redeeming value.
But that's just my opinion.

temeteus82

I see... well that's your point of view on the matter. I hope that the next president in USA can make USA more popular here in Europe. Now days Bush Jr. is not so popular back here...

SFOSOK

I'm not voting for her, but then again... I'm not voting at all.

temeteus82

Why?

Judas

no vote = vote of non confidence (if you walk into a ballot both, and not pick any cadidate, they SHOULD have to register that neither were voted for thus, no confidence)

but no one really understands how that system works.

IMO, any registered voter that doesn't end up filling out a ballot should automatically be put into the non confidence catagory....

just a imo.

SFOSOK

Or maybe we shouldn't catagorize anybody

I just haven't gotten around to registering for voting. I absolutely hate the DMV.

mike2h

not voting means u got nothing to bitch about imo. if u done like the mainstream candidates ... wich i almost always dont... vote for somebody in the green party. u know they wont get elected but if enough votes start showing up fot there 'non-runners' it WILL worry the mainstream guys.
THAT is how you show your dissatisfaction. all not voting does is help them & show that u really dont give a shit &, as i said earlier, doesnt give u a leg to stand on when bitchin. though i have been guilty of that one myself

sfosok, i hate the fn dmv to. & the way cal is governed as a whole.

BlueMak

If the democratic party goes to elections with her as the candidate, I have a feeling that the republicans will win again.

>GSXR<mrbusa

If this Bitch becomes our next president the USA will have sunk to a new low. If anybody thinks our life is censored now, wait and see what happens then. Our entertainment will be PG at the most, and she loves money, so our taxes will go through the roof.

Nobody will take her serious. You have to remember how old most of congress and the judges are and where they came from. What about the third world countries we are at war with, they will go on a rampage of so called terror. There are so many reasons for a women not to be president that the servers hosting DH couldn't handle it if they were all stated. A womens nature is what keeps them out of power. If they are appointed any position of power it is for a spokes person at best.

DudeBoyz

I don't know yet who I AM voting for, but I'm certainly not going to vote FOR Hillary. It's best to wipe the slate clean and start fresh with someone new.

I still remember that committee she ran about nationalizing the health care system in the US. Secret meetings, proposals to criminalize medical practice done outside of the plan itself, that kind of stuff. That alone is reason enough to make a judgement against her, imo.

The way she became a Senator in NY is another. She's very un-genuine, I feel. Willing to say or do what she has to in order to curry favor.

We just don't need another person like that running the country, imo.

I wish her and her husband would just "Go Away" and shut up.

BlueMak

I agree that Hilary is not to be trusted. As for your second paragraph...
It's been a while since the last time I read something this stupid.
There are examples of women in charge that were very good, very strong and definetely not soft on governing. The most famous recent one is of course Margaret Thatcher. (i hope i spell that ok) You are either trying to troll or you are naive or ignorant on the matter. Women have always been as good or bad rulers as men. It is not their nature the reason they are not as many in charge now.
Stupid stupid stupid post.

SFOSOK

Well both of you are right and wrong.

Women can be trusted with power in the government but giving them this power puts the nation at more risk then putting a man into power. They are built different then men ( before you say it I am not afraid of things that are different) and they physically and mentally have to deal with more than a man does. This sort of stress and emtional diarrhea can be controlled but it is always there and adds more stress.


So overall I think letting a woman control the government would be pretty risky but I'm not against it seeing as every politician is corrupt (regardless of gender).


As for Hillary, I do not trust her (not because she is a woman) but because she is a horrible human being not looking to better the country but give herself more power first.

Zelig

Seems to me that letting anybody control the US government is pretty risky.

I don't really know anything about Hillary Clinton, so can't even say if I'd vote for her. She could always just follow her husband's advice, he did fine as president.

SFOSOK

Laugh*

Alistair

Thats the funniest thing I have ever heard. I personally strongly disagree with this and know alot of people who would as well.

SFOSOK

With other countries he was the best. With his own, I think not...

>GSXR<mrbusa

It's amazing how the net is like liquid courage to some people.
If you really think that any women in any position of power is actually calling the shots than go for it. I know there are women politicians and in the public eye they may appear to you as being worthy. You just so happened to name the most famous of them all, name more without looking them up and I will bow to your political expertise you fing faggot. Anybody can read from a teleprompter.

You are as good at seeing through the smoke and mirrors of politics as you are at maintaining your PC. And we all know how good you are at that.

Pompey

Oh. My. God.

I cant believe I’m sitting here reading some say women are not as capable of governing as men.
Helen Clark has been PM for over 6 years and up until the appointment of a new governor General in the last couple of months ALL my countries top offices were occupied by women. They have performed just as well or just as badly as men would have done. Do we really need to trawl through history and look at all the bad decisions male leaders have made?

No leaders in a democracy are supposed to call the shots by themselves, and all leaders should be willing to take advice. Stubbornness is often not a good quality.

Didnt they come round to your school to enrol you?
Last year they came to our school and got everyone in my year to fill out the form, even the ones like me who were still 17. On our 18th birthday, we got sent a letter saying we were officially on the register.


Its also funny to listen to americans complain that their taxes will go through the roof.

OldBuzzard

Idrira Gandhi & Golda Meir just off the top of my head.

GSXR, even though I'm not a MOD, I would point out to you that this is the Political and Religious forum and not the FWZ. You might want to take that into consideration and be a bit more moderate for any other posts you may make here.

If a person has the proper qualifications, for a particular job, then what sex they are is of no concern to me. I want the best person for the job.

Being a woman is not what makes "The Hildebeast" unqualified for POTUS. There is a long list of MEN just like her who are similary unqualified.

temeteus82

Well we have female President for some time now... And she was re-elected to office. And I think that she's done her job well.

>GSXR<mrbusa

If you want to be moderate with what you say in the political and religious " DEBATE" forum then go ahead. State how you believe and move on. I do not need any advise on how politically correct I should be.

I do not care if anybody agrees with what I say or even that you post in response
to something I said in a negative way. That is what us humans do. If we all just got along and agreed with everything anybody said then we would not last very long on this planet.

Nothing I say is meant to piss anybody off or offend anybody. There are solid grounds for the way I think on the subject and if you can't tell me that without calling me stupid or ignorant then don't bother. Once that is done it is not debating anymore. I am well aware that my belief can sound extreme and I know that I am an angry person. Even though, I do not start calling names because I disagree.

There is something about the idea of calling names or making judgment on someones intelligence on the internet that would make me feel like a real pussy. I hate it when I get pissed enough to sink to that level and return the insults, but it happens.

OldBuzzard

Hmmmmmmm...